Re: [Chrysler300] What's happening to the gene pool?

[LabLoverDC@xxxxxxx]

I think that's a very good point regarding the misrepresentation--it's  
often rampant.  In my experience, it ranges from relatively clueless  sellers 
who actually think in their minds that their car is a prize, to those  who 
will say anything to get you there to look at the car, hoping you will buy  it 
even though it may be junk.  The worst is when you are very clear about  
what you want or don't want, grill the seller to tell you the truth, and 
either  drive or fly a long distance at considerable expense only to discover the 
car  was not as described.
 
That said, apparently what happened to Mr. Olson was just the  reverse.  
After arranging to meet someone who was very interested in the  car, and going 
through a lot of trouble and expense to make that happen, it  appears the 
potential buyer just stood him up, and didn't even have the courtesy  to tell 
him that he couldn't (or didn't want to) make it to the meeting.   To me, 
that is just as unconscionable as misrepresenting the car.
 
To me, one of the saddest things about the collector car hobby is the  
occasional (or perhaps frequent?) lack of integrity among either sellers or  
buyers.  Fortunately, with respect to 300 collectors, there are often  
volunteers who will go look at a car that happens to be close to them, to  provide 
an independent opinion before a prospective purchaser makes a long  trip.  I 
have personally benefited from that, and feel it is one of  the many great 
attributes of the Club.
 
Shannon
 
300F Convertible
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2013 7:10:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

 
 
 
I have to chime in here and point out a few factors that might lead to a  
statistic like this (90%).

As a buyer, I find that many cars are  misrepresented, especially when 
agents are involved. You have to make contact  and ask a lot of questions, have 
detailed pictures and documentation sent (if  not local to the car) before 
determining if a car is what you are looking  for.As a buyer, I prefer to 
deal with the owner, especially if they are  knowledgeable and have owned it 
for a long period of time or know it's  history.In my experience agents tend 
to grossly overprice vehicles and in most  cases are unwilling to negotiate 
to what may be the actual fair market price.  Not every buyer who chooses to 
follow up on an ad is going to buy that car,  why would anyone expect a 
percentage much better than 90% unless they are  offering the car at a bargain 
price? 
Yes, there are time wasters (tire  kickers) out there for sure. I am 
certain that many of the buyers included in  that 90% are actually legitimate 
buyers who decide, for whatever reason, that  the car they are inquiring about 
isn't right for them. I find agents (dealers)  are their own worst enemy. 

Ask a real estate agent how many times they  show a house before it sells. 
Do they expect everyone who walks in the door is  going to find it's exactly 
what they want and pay full price. I hope  not.

Ryan Hill 

To: _olson77@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:olson77@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) ; 
_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 
From:  _nekramer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:nekramer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 
Date:  Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:11:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] What's happening  to the gene pool?

Hi,

This is par for the course in my  experience. Good to know it is not just 
me.

Most buyers are time  wasters.

I run a collector car classified site for a 

living and  have a number of people who advertise cars who are sellers  
agents.

Apparently people really do not like dealing with  

buyers so pay these people to market their cars.

One of those  sellers agents told me that 90 

percent of the people who respond to  his ads are just useless time wasters.

I guess that means he earns  every penny of what 

he is paid for dealing with them.

Would  drive me crazy to do that all the time I think.

Regards,

Nancy  Kramer

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At 03:52 PM 7/25/2013,  GERALD OLSON  wrote:

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>Dear sir.  What a suprise to receive an e-mail 

>from you yesterday, two weeks  after we had 

>agreed to meet at Chrysler's at Carlisle between  

>the 11th and the 14th of July with no hint or 

>whisper  that you had chosen not to show up 

>because life has been so busy  and difficult for 

>you? The audacity not to call my personal cell  

>number which you have, or even e-mail me to 

>inform me  of your decision not to make the three 

>hour trip to examine the  300 Station Wagon you 

>professed to covet is unconscionable. Lets  recap 

>here shall we Sir? I had to leave the vehicle in  

>eastern Pennsylvania for an additional two 

>months  after the upgrades were completed just to 

>make it easier for you  to examine the vehicle at 

>Carlisle and you knew this. There were  

>additional storage fees involved. A flight and 

>an  extra night motel and meal charges involved 

>also. I went out of my  way to supply you with 

>information about Lodging at Carlisle  including phone #s and names at your

>request. Sir, at this point  the Batwagon is no 

>longer on the market or for sale to you ever,  

>regardless of price. My Grand Daughter will 

>receive  the car as a High School Graduation 

>gift. Good luck on your quest  for new toys, 

>however I suspect you should start looking  

>elsewhere for any new aquisitions then from this 

>300  club because I feel compelled to pass this 

>message to at least  half the 300 club members 

>because their are approxamately 500  folks that 

>will now know how unprofessional you are in your  

>dealings. Have a good life if you can ever you 

>find  one. Regards, Gerald D Olson

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