RE: [Chrysler300] 1957 Chrysler 300C fans & rear springs

[christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gil/others

1)  do you mean by 'Silent-Flite', that the 300C fan should have a fluid or solid coupling. I originally thought they would be liquid/fluid, but it seems pretty common to find fan bolted solid to water pump through just a fairly narrow alloy spacer?

 

2) Gil or others - sorry to ask, it told plenty of times before - what is easiest way to order pair of 300C rear springs from Club connected supplier. Looked in latest Club Mag, but on first look/read, did not see advert/details.

And I can ship out of either East Coast or West Coast, but I think East Coast is cheaper to send them to, as it nearer who makes them? 

 

And I think I also know they do not copy the original centre grooved spring leaf/plates  - is that correct. But they likely make car ride/handle way better, so that acceptable losse from originalty onthe car they for.

 

Christopher in Australia 
 



To: jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx; mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx
CC: sa-noia@xxxxxxxxxxx; d.verity@xxxxxxx; robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rfmelton@xxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; gnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:11:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C

  



All:
Note that the Granatelli 300F is one of the 400HP 4 speed cars. As far as 
I know, it has never been determined which one. 

Also regarding the 300C Silent-Flite viscous drive fan. It was standard 
on all 300Cs, AC or not. Both the AMA specs and the 300C Service Manual 
Supplement agree. The non-AC 300C did not use a shroud. The fan diameter was 
18". Blade spacing differed AC to non AC, but the number of blades was 6 
in all cases. Whether or not "substitutions" ---wink-wink---were made, I 
don't know, but Chrysler's intention was a Silent-Flite fan for every 300C.
300ly, Gil Cunningham


In a message dated 7/10/2013 5:42:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx writes:

The twin supercharged 300F is pretty well documented if you go on Google.
Andy set a one way record of almost 190 mph on the beach at Daytona during
the flying mile in the 'experimental' class.
http://www.geocities.ws/chryslerscars/granatellii.html

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:29 PM, mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx
<mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx>wrote:

> It could look impressive enough, but I believe all of the ram benefit
> would be lost and performance enhancement would be about the same as on 
any
> ordinary induction system. I wouldn't do it.
>
> Marshall Goodknight
>
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> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C
> **
>
>
> John
> Didn't Granatelli do the twin superchargers on a Studebaker Avanti? Doing
> it on a 300C would be very interesting, you'd need to have both carbs
> running together. Twin superchargers on a Long Ram would be even better. 
It
> would be a little crowded under the hood. However the curb appeal would
> astronomical to say the least. Both are doable, I will add one of them
> to my bucket list.
>
> Best Regards,
> Stephen A. Noia
> 1-408-210-4736 cell
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Don Verity <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
> Cc: Rob Kern <robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Ray Melton <rfmelton@xxxxxxx>; list
> server <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Gary Nelson <gnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C
>
> Oh, so you're 'on the bottle' now, eh? You should also do the Granatelli
> recreation of twin Paxton superchargers on your F.
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Don Verity <d.verity@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > A little shot of nitrous will take care of that .1 and then some 
[image:
> > Smile].
> >
> > *From:* John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:07 AM
> > *To:* Don Verity <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
> > *Cc:* Rob Kern <robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ray Melton <rfmelton@xxxxxxx>
> ; list
> > server <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Gary Nelson 
<gnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C
> >
> > Those of us with Factory Air 57 C's with fan clutch have at least .1 
sec
> > better 1/4 mile times than the folks with horsepower robbing non-clutch
> > units. ;-)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Don Verity <d.verity@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> To throw some more confusion into the subject, my 57-C with factory 
A/C
> >> has an 18 inch 6 blade fan with no clutch. The car sat since 1972, and
> does
> >> not look like the fan was ever messed with. I spoke to Wayne about 
this
> >> too, and he has a factory A/C car with the same fan. Who knows what
> >> Chrysler was thinking back then.
> >> 300ly,
> >> Don Verity
> >>
> >> From: Rob Kern
> >> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:43 PM
> >> To: Ray Melton ; mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com<chrysler300%
> 40yahoogroups.com>; Gary Nelson
> >> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C
> >>
> >> Hello 300値y to all!
> >> I have the 5 blade fan on my factory A/C 300C. Only four bolts connect
> it
> >> to the thermostatic fan clutch. It definitely looks strange with the 3
> & 2
> >> configuration. Hope this helps! Rob Kern
> >>
> >> From: Gary Nelson
> >> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:13 PM
> >> To: Ray Melton ; mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C
> >>
> >> Ray--for what it is worth, my non a/c 57 300 came with a 6 blade 
clutch
> >> fan.
> >> I have two 57 Imperial a/c clutch fans that have 5 unequal blades. 
They
> >> look
> >> strange w/ 3 blades to one side and 2 blades to the other. I believe 
the
> >> reason for 5 blade on a/c is the fan is turned faster, larger crank
> >> pulley.
> >> There must be some a/c 57 300's out there that can verify if they came
> w/
> >> 5
> >> or 6 blade.
> >>
> >> I have the shock bolt, problem it is 500 mi. from me. If you can wait,
> you
> >> can have it n/c.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Gary, the parts doc
> >> Escondido, CA USA
> >> Land of the Avocado
> >> Mail: mailto:garythepartsdoc%40glnelson.com
> >> 760.751.1958
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Chrysler300%
> >> 40yahoogroups.com]On
> >> Behalf Of Ray Melton
> >> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:40 AM
> >> To: mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [Chrysler300] Need parts for 1957 Chrysler 300C
> >>
> >> Hello All --
> >>
> >> In the midst of restoring my late father's 1957 Chrysler 300C, I find
> that
> >> I
> >> need the items shown below; I've struck out at half a dozen of the 
major
> >> Mopar salvage yards - they either don't have the parts or sound like
> they
> >> don't really want to mess with finding/removing them!
> >>
> >> FAN FOR A/C CAR: Six blades, 18" diameter, large 1.875" hole in
> >> center, held to fan clutch by four 5/16" bolts on 3.25" centers. I
> >> believe these fans were also supplied on the big-hemi Chryslers,
> Imperials
> >> and DeSotos in 1957 & 1958 WITH FACTORY AIR CONDITIONING ONLY. (most
> >> non-A/C cars did not have a fan clutch and therefore had no big hole 
in
> >> the
> >> center.)
> >>
> >> RIGHT REAR LOWER SHOCK ABSORBER MOUNTING PLATE WITH STUD: This is the
> >> heavy
> >> steel plate under the leaf spring(s) which is held in place by the two
> >> U-bolts over the axle. Part No. 1820438 is stamped on the lower 
surface.
> >> My shock mounting stud broke off upon removing the nut. I believe this
> >> same
> >> part would also be found on 1957-1958 Chryslers, Imperials and 
DeSotos.
> If
> >> you can safely remove just the stud (with nuts)from the plate (either
> left
> >> or right side), that stud part is actually all I need.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Ray Melton
> >>
> >> Las Cruces, NM
> >>
> >> 1957 Chrysler 300C convertible white/Gauguin
> >>
> >> S/N 3N57 2517
> >>
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