RE: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K

["Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is a prime example of why you should buy an inexpensive infrared
temperature gun.  Harbor Freight sells them for about $30.  I bought one and
use it for many more things than I would have thought.  I wouldn't be
without it.  You can tell the temp of any part of your engine, house, pool,
deck, oil in the deep fryer turkey pot etc.

Bob J 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Moore
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:45 AM
To: David Schwandt
Cc: 'Keith Boonstra'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K

After my 300H engine was rebuilt, and I drove it back from Illinois to
California, it ran very hot. 

I had a very expensive radiator core installed without result. 

That was followed by new water pump, shroud, fan blade, clutch,   many tests
(pressure etc,) but nothing solved it. Then one day while I was running the
car in my garage and setting the carbs, it dawned on-that engine was just
not hot! I checked the temp gauge, and it said very hot. As usual, whenever
the temp was up, the oil pressure would drop . Someone suggested I replace
the instrument voltage regulator. Once i did that, the temp came down and
the oil pressure went up. I had been fixing a non-problem-or more correctly,
the wrong problem! 
Mike Moore 

On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:28 AM, "David Schwandt" <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Kieth, 

He's working on a non-A/C car and more than likely don't have a fan clutch.
Just bolted up solid. 
That being said, a fan clutch and shroud May aid somewhat but the underlying
o/heating problem will still exist.
More than likely stat, plugged water passages and or water pump problems. If
this is in an original engine to the car and has never been opened up I'll
bet all the above will prove to be the cause of the problem.
I have ran 63-64 Chryslers w/big blocks and have never had an O/heating
problem but these were fresh engine cars also.
A thermal fan clutch will aid also in MPG.

Dave Schwandt

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Keith Boonstra
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:36 AM
To: David Schwandt
Cc: robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Carlton
Schroeder'; 'Rich Barber'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K

The bane of many a cooling system - and seldom addressed while looking
everywhere else for a problem source - is the fan clutch. When new, the
non-thermally activated type of clutch may spin the fan at something like
30% of water pump speed, but when they wear out they may spin at half that
speed without it being apparent. They don't last forever. 
Replacing it with a thermal one is the best way to go, but at least a new
non-thermal one would be a smart move. Problem is you will need a bit of
luck finding an NORS one.

I made some of these clutches up some time back, and I could think about
doing another batch of them. The ones I made were thermally activated and
bring the speed up to something like 65% when the coolant is hot. 
As I recall they ran about $125. Frankly I'm really not looking forward to
adding something more to my agenda, but I would rather not hear of cars not
able to be driven for lack of a fan clutch.

Is there further interest at this time?

Keith Boonstra

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On 3/27/2013 10:48 AM, David Schwandt wrote:
>
> Sounds like it's time for a complete cooling system rehab.
> If the system has not been serviced in a while I'd suggest Flush/fill 
> stat and hoses for starters.
> And also double check temp sender and guage w/a infrared thermometer 
> to be sure they are registering correctly.
> I may be wrong here but I would think a non operating heat riser in 
> the stuck closed position my play a part in overheating.
>
> Dave Schwandt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
> robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:robert554%40centurytel.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:40 AM
> To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>; 'Carlton Schroeder'; Rich 
> Barber
> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his 
> K
>
> thank you rich barber for adding the word hose......... i had this 
> problem years ago on my stock car . took an old mechanic to figure it 
> out, he knew right off the bat what it was ... i have always listened 
> to the old guys .. there the ones that know the most... if they dont 
> pass the knowledge down we tend to struggle.... bob hayen
>
> Quoting Rich Barber :
>
> Good point, but needs the word "hose" added between "radiator" and 
> "does". As shown below.
>
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
> robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:robert554%40centurytel.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:16 PM
> To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>; Carlton Schroeder
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his 
> K
>
> if the bottom radiator HOSE does not have a spring in it this can 
> cause problems . sometimes the spring will rust a way and the bottom 
> hose will suck shut when the engine warms up .. very easy to check 
> this first .... bob hayen 406 752 5152
>
> Quoting Carlton Schroeder :
>
> Hello,
>
> Chuck Carlino, a current Club member from O'Fallon, MO has an 
> overheating problem with his non-AC K. He said it has always been a 
> problem but hopes to correct / help it with a fan shroud (from an AC 
> car), if he could find one. Chuck thought a 63 shroud would also fit.
>
> Chuck doesn't have email so if you could call him at 636-281-1849 that 
> would be a big help. Otherwise you could email me and I will let him 
> know.
>
> Chuck may be able to attend the Spring meet but his wife is ill so he 
> is uncertain if that will work out.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carlton Schroeder
>
> Eagle River (2 ft of snow on the ground), WI
>
> 715-272-1837
>
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