RE: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery

["David Schwandt" <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Way to go Mark!

IMHO,  nothing detracts from a show ready MoPar of any model, especially a
300, than an off color battery w/weird red plastic tie downs, goofy shut off
gizmos, red cables and wrong clamps unless its red heater hoses w/screw
clamps, WEEPING RED HEATER HOSES in place of low pressure PB return lines
and blue/red/you pick a color wraps on the rad hoses.

1st thought that comes to mind when I see this stuff is "Kiddie Kar" and
this guy ain't really serious about a stock looking engine compt.
But....that being said....to each his own!!

Rant over!  

Dave Schwandt

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Souders
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:23 AM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery


A few years ago I bought a gel battery from Antique Auto Battery for $255 at
Spring Carlisle. It lasted two years. I replaced it with a new battery from
the retail outlet at DEKA Batteries (makers of Auto Zone's Duralast
batteries) in Lyon Station, PA. I got one with the two rectangular vent caps
covering sx vent holes. I pried off the vent caps to expose the six holes on
top of the battery, then salvaged the red caps from the gel battery and
forced them into the new battery holes. I had to file off a little of the
plastic threads on each cap to make them fit snugly into the holes. Then I
slapped on one of those Mopar Battery stickers to the front side. The end
result is a new modern battery with the appearance of an original. I don't
have pics here at work but if you'd like to see it, I can send you a pic
tonight when I get home.

Mark Souders
300H
Mohrsville, PA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx>
To: 'Terry & Andree Hoeman' <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Don Warnaar'
<300country@xxxxxxx>; chrysler300 <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Michael
Falcone' <mjf175@xxxxxxx>; josh <josh@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Chris Pinder <kmaniak@xxxxxxx>; 'Larry Jett' <larrywjett@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 2:45 am
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery


I've been reading the reproduction battery stories and discussing them with
wners for several years and have observed the following:  
Reproduction MoPar, Auto-Lite and Willard batteries are available from
everal sources.  
http://restorationbattery.com/index.html
http://antiqueautobattery.com/
http://www.batterycentralmall.com/Batteries/TurboStart/TurboStart_Script.htm
 
http://shop.turbostart.com/Collector-Car-Series_c2.htm
They are very expensive to purchase and ship-up to twice as much as a
tandard battery.
Their longevity is not great.  Purchasers are often disappointed in the
ppearance, configuration of posts, cost and performance of these
eproductions.
Their cranking capacity is less than may be available from readily-available
remium batteries, such as Interstate, DieHard.  Costco's Kirkland batteries
re highly rated and bargain priced.  Interstate has an online catalog of
atteries.  This link is for a '58 Chrysler with several options available.
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/cs_eStore/Search.aspx/Vintage-Car/Chrysle
?dsNavigation=Ns~product+Type%7c101%7c1%7c,N~2147384794-2147384936-42944934
3
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/cs_eStore/Search.aspx/Vintage-Car/Chrysl
r?dsNavigation=Ns~product+Type%7c101%7c1%7c,N~2147384794-2147384936-4294493
63%20%20%20%20%0dor>     
or
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/cs_eStore/Search.aspx/Vintage-Car/Chrysl
r?dsNavigation=Ns~product+Type%7c101%7c1%7c,N~2147384794-2147384936-4294493
63%20%20%20%20%0dor> :  http://tinyurl.com/dx9y9vo                
Some of our old Brutes need all the cranking power they can get to pull
oday's motor fuels into the carb bowls.
Reproduction tar tops and complete empty cases are available and may or may
ot be used to encase the new gel batteries such as Optimas.
I understand the Optima batteries like a slightly higher (0.35-0.70 Volts
igher) charging voltage as compared to the 13.3-14.3 Volts specified in the
64 Chrysler service manual.
http://www.tartopper.com/        
http://www.batterytoppers.com/index.html                        
Chrysler 300 Club judging does not delete points for generic black atteries,
especially if the non-original decals and stickers are removed.
hey may award extra points in concours judging for a reproduction battery.
Reproduction side and end stickers are available to stick on a new, modern,
igh-capacity, long-lived and maintenance-free batteries.
Proper cables, cable ends, bolts and hold-down hardware in good condition
dds a lot to under-hood appearance.
 
We'd like to hear from anyone who has experienced satisfactory to good
esults from any of the vendors listed or any other vendor or solution to he
vintage battery issue.  Until then, Google, study and shop for something hat
suits your fancy, enhances the underhood appearance of your Chrysler 00,
cranks and starts the engine under all conditions and doesn't leave you
tranded at the side of the road.
 
I'm using Interstate's "Workaholic" Group 2-XHD battery in my '55, peeled ff
the stickers, painted the filler plugs red and replaced the cables.  It ooks
just fine.
The Workaholic Group 2-XHD battery is shown at:  http://tinyurl.com/ctqsm3v
nd will crank all day.
 
It appears a Group 27 battery was standard in my 300K and further study hows
there is also a Group 27F with reversed terminals.  I think the F tands for
Ford-with maybe GM & MoPars the plain Group 24 or 27.  The Group
7 batteries are about 1.8" longer than the Group 24's.  I'll be needing one
oon.
 
I've seen various configurations of these batteries in '64's with
tretched/extended cables and posts to the center or to the edge of the ngine
compartment.  Which is correct for a K?  24, 24F, 27, 27F???  Battery ounted
with terminals closest to the left fender edge or closest to the ngine?
Positive terminal to the front or rear?
 
MoPar to ya!
 
Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA
 
 
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
ehalf Of Terry & Andree Hoeman
ent: Monday, March 25, 2013 7:11 PM
o: 'Don Warnaar'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Michael Falcone'
ubject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery
 
  
I've always understood that the Willard Battery was used in at least the
arly 50s. Picked up a bunch of new condition Willard signs from the local
ealership some years back.
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rom: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ]
n ehalf Of Don Warnaar
ent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:35 PM
o: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ;
ichael Falcone
ubject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery I don't know if this
was still true by 1958, but the 1950 DeSoto that my ather bought new came
with a Willard Battery. I think Chrysler Corp. used everal brands of
batteries during that time and Willard was one of them.
Don Warnaar
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rom: Michael Falcone <mjf175@xxxxxxx <mailto:mjf175%40aol.com>
mailto:mjf175@xxxxxxx <mailto:mjf175%40aol.com> >>
o: josh <josh@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:josh%40hyfire.com> <mailto:josh@xxxxxxxxxx
mailto:josh%40hyfire.com> >>
ent: Mon, Mar 25, 2013 5:44 pm
ubject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery I did some reserch to
try and find what the original Battery was for my 61 00-G. I read that the
original batteries were not Mopar batteries but some ther brand. I have seen
some old pictures were you could read Autolite rinted on the battery. I read
somewhere that the dealers sold Mopar atteries as replacements only. Not
sure if that is true, maybe someone else ill comment on this.
Subject: [Chrysler300] 1958 300D - Original Battery Hello guys, I've got a
photo of my car's engine compartment in 1958 and it looks like ust a plain
black battery.
Does anyone know what battery was factory in 1958? I see repros with the
oPar logo, but don't know if they are correct?
THANKS!
Josh
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