RE: [Chrysler300] Firm feel power steering

["Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ray,
 
Sorry to disagree, but positive caster is what I described accurately in my
previous post as desirable.  When viewed from the side, the upper ball joint
is farther back than the lower ball joint for positive caster.  See this
illustration:
 
http://www.blueriverfleet.com/align/alignm7.gif
 
Camber is a different setting, yes they work together, but max positive
caster is what you want, that's all I'm saying.
 
Bob J
 
 
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ray Jones
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 12:48 PM
Cc: Chrysler 300 Broadcast
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Firm feel power steering
 
  
That makes it Negative Castor.
Top of the Spindle forward of the bottom is Positive Castor, looking from
the side.

We also deal with Camber.
And a easy way to remember which is which, is this:
Looking at the front of the car. Camber is the letter "M" , in at the top is
Negative, out is Positive.
Poached from a Yahoo look-up:

Camber angle is the angle made by the wheels of a vehicle; specifically, it
is the angle between the vertical axis of the wheels used for steering and
the vertical axis of the vehicle when viewed from the front or rear. It is
used in the design of steering and suspension. If the top of the wheel is
farther out than the bottom (that is, away from the axle), it is called
positive camber; if the bottom of the wheel is farther out than the top, it
is called negative camber.

Camber angle alters the handling qualities of a particular suspension
design; in particular, negative camber improves grip when cornering. This is
because it places the tire at a better angle to the road, transmitting the
forces through the vertical plane of the tire rather than through a shear
force across it. Another reason for negative camber is that a rubber tire
tends to roll on itself while cornering. Negative camber can also be caused
by excessive weight on the front wheels. This is commonly seen on modified
cars with larger engines than standard; the weight of the modified engine
can make the wheels negatively camber. The inside edge of the contact patch
would begin to lift off of the ground if the tire had zero camber, reducing
the area of the contact patch. This effect is compensated for by applying
negative camber, maximizing the contact patch area. Note that this is only
true for the outside tire during the turn; the inside tire would benefit
most from positive camber.

On the other hand, for maximum straight-line acceleration, the greatest
traction will be attained when the camber angle is zero and the tread is
flat on the road.

Just a little more info, Ray

On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Bob Jasinski wrote:

My alignment guy was able to get 2 degrees caster in my stock front end.
Caster is what causes the wheels to go in a straight line when you take your
hands off the steering wheel. The upper control arm position is farther
back that the lower control arm, this puts the steering knuckle axis line
leaning towards the back of the car. Think of a motorcycle, the caster put
in the front fork causes the motorcycle to go straight when you let go of
the handle bars, the same thing is true in a car.

Ray Jones
1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:1970hurst%40gmail.com> 

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