Hi All, I would be really cautious about having manifolds re-surfaced on a ram car. You have no margin for error with the angles in relation to the elbows and exhaust pipes. Anyone who has been in or around my G knows it's quiet. I run Fel-Pro gaskets on the exhaust manifolds, and Bob Merritt's reproductions on the elbows. They have been there since 2003. There is no real secret. The manifolds need to be initially torqued to 25 foot pounds. Start it and let it warm some without driving the car and re-torque it with it warm. Let it cool off over night and do it again. It's kind of a pain, but beats listening to exhaust leaks. All traces of old gasket must be removed before putting in the new one. I also cut out the gasket between the exhaust runners. It looks better, and may help too. ----- Original Message ----- From: pffkllc@xxxxxxx To: robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; News4ge@xxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] J / ram K owners............... Can we assume that there has been no warping of the block? Not much sense in milling the manifolds if the surfaces to which they are to mate are not true as well. I have a similar problem with my G and while I certainly don't have headers on it, I keep blowing manifold gaskets one after the other. Maybe I should consider having them milled to see what the result might be. Pete Fitch In a message dated 2/28/2012 9:48:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: the manifolds need to come off and taken to a machine shop and milled flat . both surfaces against the head and the head pipe . then NO gaskets . just a little hi temp silicon gaskets maker. i am sure the two middle ports are warped, most of them are ..bob hayen ----- Original Message ----- From: _News4ge@xxxxxxxx (mailto:News4ge@xxxxxxx) To: _Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] J / ram K owners............... Hi, I remember some discussion about excessive heat coming out of the exhaust ports and blowing header gaskets. Has this happened to you? Have you found a relatively easy way to fix it? I REALLY don't want to remove the intakes again. Is it possible to unfasten all the nuts and bolts and have enough wiggle room to slip on a new gasket, or even to use a sealer or liquid gasket? Is the temp. coming out of an exhaust port too much for a sealer? Didn't someone say that some of these cars didn't even get header gaskets from the factory? I hope someone can help answer this. The noise and fumes are getting tiresome! Thanks, George Clineman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4840 - Release Date: 02/28/12 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/