I put the 2 1/4" wide white Diamondbacks on our F before heading to the Front Royal meet from Chicago in May '10. Diamondback's core tire back then was the Vredenstein Comtrac - 205Rx14 - actually a 6-ply Eurospec van tire. Jimmy at Diamondback highly recommended them, and they've been great. Drove through heavy downpours running in to Front Royal as well as heading back to Chicago, with great stability. T McTaggert commented on how great the F was tracking as he was tailing me cruising at speed through the twisty windy VA roads. Have no idea why this size tire was discontinued by Vredenstein, but am very happy with them - ride quality as well as quiet road noise. Also, the tires were almost perfectly balanced, with only minimal balancing weights needed. And, the speedo is right on when measured against Garmin's satellite speed readout. Noel Hastalis Burr Ridge, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Boonstra" <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx> Cc: millserAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom Cox" <tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Chrysler300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:51:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J ( or K) with one inch whitewall For those of you still looking to go with the Diamond Backs, here is the latest word as of today. The 235/75R_15_s should be available yet this year. And they are looking at approximately March 2012 for the 235/75R_14_ size. Of course these will be in any whitewall width you want. After all the stories we went through a few months ago, the choice is pretty clear. If you've got a trailer queen, Coker or American Classic is the only way to go. They are very original looking and will score well with the judges. But they're not a tire you want to drive - they'll blow out on the highway. If you want to hit the American Road, it will be worth every penny to spring for a grand on Diamond Backs as they only use Level 100 tires. I'll let you know when I hear further on the 235-14 progress. Keith Boonstra - On 8/31/2011 3:26 PM, Rich Barber wrote: > > I’m shopping tires for my 300K. The build card indicates 8.50 X 14 > Rayon tires came on it and this is consistent with the 8.50 x 14 being > standard on ram cars and optional on other K’s. > > American Classic seems to have a P235/75R15 with 1” WSW. > > See: > http://www.americanclassictires.com/types-of-whitewall-tires/75-series-narrow-whitewall/ > > > Lucas and others retail them. See: > http://www.lucasclassictires.com/RADIALS031811_1749.htm $261, each at > Lucas or Coker. > > This site has a comprehensive set of dimensions for tires, old and > new: http://carnut.com/specs/tires.html > > 8.50/8.55 x 14 height: 28.1”, P225/75R14: 27.3”, P235/75R14: 27.9” > (American Classic spec’s: 27.87”) > > It would be good to hear from anyone having installed a set of > P235/75R-14’s on a 1964 300K. Any problems with difficulty in balance, > premature wear or failure? rubbing on suspension? alignment issues? > Appearance? Would be good to know before buying five of these > overpriced tires. American Classic seems to have a monopoly on this size. > > BTW, I had one ruined tire on the 1964 300K I just took delivery on, > so I had it removed from the wheel. The wheel is stamped on the inside > with 14X6K-1 and, underneath the size, the numbers 2 and 64—and nearby > the word “Kelsey”. As the car was shipped 12/12/63, the 2 64 possible > date mark is puzzling. > > Having no spare for the K, I installed the spare from my ’55 C300. The > 3” WSW L78-15 on a wire wheel looked pretty sharp! > > C300K’ly, > > Rich Barber > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Edward Mills > Antique Tractors > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:18 AM > To: retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> > Cc: Tom Cox; Chrysler300 > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall > > Plenty of options in the smaller size P215/75R14 (old 8.00-14/8.25-14) > or P225/70R14 (G70-14). See Firestone, Cooper, Hankook, Khumo, maybe Toyo. > > Nothing in P225/75R14 (8.50-14/8.55-14). Not much in P235/75R14 (See > Coker / American Classic). > > Diamondback mostly adds whitewalls to existing blackwall carcasses > (Michelin, Goodrich, or whatever) - you can pretty much get any > whitewall width - but you have to have a blackwall tire as a starting > point and currently there is nothing in the bigger 14 inch to start with. > > On 8/31/2011 11:37 AM, retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> > <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> wrote: > > > > I am committed to using 14 inch tires. any suggestions? What are > > DiamondBacks? I like th 1 1/4 to 2.0 inch whitewalls..... > > > > J D Jung > > Retromobilia.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Cox" < tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net> > <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net> <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>> > > To: "C Bilter" < cbilter@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com> > <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com> <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>>, > > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:45:47 AM > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall > > > > I am running DiamondBacks for all my classic cars. Never a problem; I > > love > > them and would use no one else. Pricey, maybe, but great quality and > good > > service. > > > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > > Behalf Of C Bilter > > Sent: 2011-08-30 7:50 PM > > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Whitewall Tires for H or J with one inch > whitewall > > > > Other than Diamondback ($$$$) I am finding virtually squat for the > > correct > > whitewall in radials. Several years ago this was no problem for the > > P235/75R15 tire. Now, Broadway Classics and Dimension IV are no longer > > made, American Classics only have 1.6” in this size, and Cooper and > > others > > only have a ¾” whitewall. The only one close to the correct 1 and > > 1/16” to > > 1 and 1/8” I can find is Champiro 75 by GT Radial with a 1.25” > > whitewall. I > > am extremely hesitant to go with these, both on principle because they > > are > > made in Asia and also because I suspect they are junk. Has anyone tried > > them? Has anyone found other tires in the last year or so with the > proper > > whitewall? I will not put a ¾” whitewall on a J; it doesn’t look > > right, and > > I will not run bias plys, which actually cost even more. Whitewalls at > > the > > tire stores are going down the path to oblivion faster than a shine > > runner > > in a 300C. Looks like 1.6 inch American Classics or cough up the > coin for > > Diamondbacks unless anyone has a better idea. > > > > 300Jly, > > > > Carl Bilter > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! 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