Ray and All, The pulley on a 413 is stamped steel that bolts to the hub of the balancer, there is no rubber joint to slip. The outer ring is the only thing that has rubber between it and the hub. How else would you remove the damper from the crank? If it was rubber mounted, it would pull off before the hub moved. The water pump on a big block is bolted to a housing, NOT the front cover. I have never seen a pump get so bad that it even came close to the housing. Gary, What do you do about impellers? You usually have to break them to get the shaft out. I would be interested in seeing your procedure for this, as these things get pretty frozen with age. I do have a 20 ton press. 300ly, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Jones Cc: Chrysler 300 Broadcast Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F Water Pump I haven't seen anyone mentioning the other more likely reason the pulleys were not alined. That could be that the rubber mounted pulley sheeve on the Harmonic Balancer has moved forward some. You might want to check that. And, you always want to check the front cover. I have seen several that were eaten out from the impeller blades going deeper and deeper as the wear increased. When a new pump is installed, there will be too much clearance behind the blades and not enough water will be pumped. Ray On Nov 10, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Gary Nelson wrote: A/C units do have (6) six vein impellers and the non-A/C had (8) eight. I was told they turn the a/c pump at higher rpm's. That would mean the pulley diameters are different for a/c. All the more reason to use roller bearings. Maybe the differences could be a good tech article on the club site. I could get photos of the 6 & 8 impellers. Thank you, Gary, the parts doc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/