Re: [Chrysler300] Dual master cylinder conversion

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My 300C brakes have failed twice. Both times were at 20-25 mph with no warnings. 



What worked for me? 

I'd rehearsed for that dreaded failure based on experiences with other cars.  

Steer toward any open space (consider lawns and open sidewalks ) 

Press 1  to downshift (scrubs off a fair amount of speed) 

Pull handbrake. It works. Hearing now there could be parking brake or driveshaft  damage, I would still 

trade that over body damage. 



Luck also helps. 



Jim 


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To: robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, hurst300@xxxxxxxxxx 
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:38:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Dual master cylinder conversion 

  




Query: 

Why not push the buttons for the lower gears (1 or 2)? Strikes me 
that downshifting the car into first or second would have a better effect than 
having it in reverse with an automatic kick out into neutral. 

Pete Fitch 




In a message dated 4/21/2010 9:02:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: 

Hello 300'ly to all! 
My Dad did the similar thing with tail gaters with our '57 DeSoto. He 
would gently push the reverse button to engage the back-up lights. Worked 
like a charm. The transmission has a safety default in that pushing the 
reverse button when in drive at speeds 15 mph or greater will move the manual 
control lever to the neutral position and when the vehicle drops to less 
than 15 mph it will be necessary to reposition the R button. ROB KERN 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ray Jones 
Cc: Chrysler 300 Broadcast 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Dual master cylinder conversion 

On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:37 PM, keboonstra wrote: 

And how about this related question. Suppose your brakes went out and all 
you now had was your parking brake to save you from certain mayhem. Would 
you pull the brake just a little to slow down gradually and risk having it 
fade and become useless? Or would you pull it decisively so as to lock it up 
before it has a chance to fade from overheat? Would pulling it too hard at 
speed bust up the brake and leave you with nothing? 

>>> I seem to remember that the California Hi-way patrol tested cars every 
year for suitability for use by them. Mopars failed the "Emergency stop" 
test regularly. 
I remember photos of the Driveshaft being snapped off, either leaving the 
car with nothing or actually dropping to the road and causing more 
problems. 
I also think that this was the reason Mopar went to standard rear drum 
emergency brakes, loss of sales of fleet cars. I think there is a Hot Rod mag 
article on this test. 

Or how about hitting the "R" button at road speed? Is there a lockout to 
keep it from going to reverse at certain speeds? That maneuver may possibly 
throw your car in a spin, but prudently done it might be better than 
coasting a half mile looking for a soft tree to stop you. 

>>> Won't work. My buddy had a new '57 Fury and he would push the "R" 
button if someone was too close. 
He also did this once at over 100 with some Bad Bikers chasing us and they 
faded fast when those back-up lights came on! 

Ray 

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