Point taken. My painter is comfortable doing both types & I decided it was easier to keep it looking nice with the 2 stage, including touch ups. As I said, only doing this once, so fit my personal tastes best. This is not designed to be a 100 pointer, but is much closer than I had planned when we started 25 months ago. Keep in mind I have to drive 1000 miles+ to one of our meets, so easier cosmetics is important. Planning on Branson next fall with this E if Ryan can wait that long for comparisons. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:38 pm Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Paint Type, 300-D To: Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Lindsey Fuller <yesdnil@xxxxxxx> > This comes up every so often. Lindsey, John suggested "repair > results" of two-stage paints not "longevity." I don't know if > you guys own new-ish vehicles with base/clear AND > wash/polish/wax them yourself. I have a 2006 Jeep and I feel > like if I sneeze on the clearcoat, it's going to scratch. Never > mind try to get some tree sap or bird crap off of it. > > I also worked in a body shop for a year and a half a while back > and repaired and sprayed both single and two-stage paints. Yes > the two stage paints are easier to spray and easier to repair. > But my G coupe was single-stage painted about 23 years ago, and > I've driven it at least 70K miles in the last 21. I'm not very > good to the paint, but when I want to polish it up it looks > decent, and appropriate. Sure it has a lot of stone chips (and a > couple touch ups on the lower body) but I'm sure if it was two- > stage the clear would have had to be reshot years ago to keep it > up. > > I just don't think the clear coats are more durable, easier to > repair yes, but not more durable. So, for our purposes, a single > stage is more durable and more correct looking. I guess if you > want your car look shiny perfect for every show, you can reshoot > the clear coat whenever you want. In my experience (especially > if you have a driver) it will need repairs less often, and look > more correct, with a single stage. > > Keep in mind, not a lot of shops shoot single stage any more. > They will try to convince you that two-stage is "better" since > they are set up for it and used to using it. It may be a self- > fulfilling prophecy since those shops may get poor results with > single stage since they are not using it all the time. And it > will be more expensive. Shop around or DIY! > > Andy Mikonis > in cold, snowy Chicago > > --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Lindsey Fuller <yesdnil@xxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Lindsey Fuller <yesdnil@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Paint Type, 300-D > To: "Chrysler 300 Club" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I am in Ryan's camp as I intend to drive my E, not trailer it around. > > Longevity of the base/clear finish is the main factor for me. I > won't be > > restoring this one again & it should still look pretty nice in > 10+ yrs. > > > > Lindsey Fuller > > Winnipeg > > > > John wrote: > > > > >Hi all- > > > > > >I'm trying to decide what type of paint I will have my Ermine > White 300-D coupe painted. > > > > > >Should I go with a single stage acrylic, or a two-stage > basecoat/clearcoat? For originality' s sake, I would think > that a single-stage paint would be better, but I intend to be > putting 5000-6000 miles a year on the car once it is back on the > road - so it is going to exposed to more road debris than many > 50-year-old automobiles - and I understand the two-stage paint > has better repair results. > > > > > >Thanks! > > > > > >John Spiers > > >Lake Worth, Florida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > >----------- --------- --------- ------- > > > > > >To send a message to this group, send an email to: > > >Chrysler300@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > >For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler > 300club.com/ yahoolist/ inst.htm > > > > > >For archives go to http://www.forwardl ook.net/300- > archive/Yahoo! 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