Hi Bill, It has been many years since I timed my 300C, but I always set it about 5 to 8 degrees advance. In a letter from E.P.Carr, Car Engineering, Chrysler Corp., Dated April 8, 1958, "The specified engine timing is 4 degrees B.T.D.C. at sea level. This timing was established with Auto-Lite extended tip spark Plug (A.G.R. 32). Because of lower air density at higher altitude timing could be advanced to 8 degrees B.T.D.C. above specific timing (Max 12 degrees ). Spark plug heat range equivalent to Auto-Lite A.G.R. 32 or colder are a must for high speed driving with this advance. Fuel economy at 4,000 feet could be improved by using our Altitude Package which contains one size leaner metering rods Carter No. 75-1180" Copies of the above letter were sent to: E.W. Beckman, F. N. Jenkins and R. M.Rodger. When this letter was written, our 300C, was in Livingston, Montana where the original owner lived. The elevation of Livingston is close to 5,000 feet. We bought our 300C July 19, 1958 and drove it to Seattle, WA where I lived at the time. I have always used the standard AGR 42, which is a hotter plug. My experience with the colder plug AGR 32 is that they would only last for 3,000 miles before I had to replace them. In the 1950's, I went through 40 of the AGR 32 before the Chrysler Dealer in Seattle advised me to get a hotter plug. The AGR 32 would leave black smoke out the Exhaust. Part of your problem with the 4 degrees timing is that your timing marks on your balancer may be not correct. Over the years the rubber in the balancer may move. John & Arlys Chesnutt -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Leahy Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:27 AM To: Chrysler 300 club Subject: [Chrysler300] timing issue my 57 has a timing issue that is puzzling to this old bird and his semi-mechanic friends. when i set the timing at 6 degrees BTDC it runs just fine...but when i turn it off and try to start it, it says no way. so, to get it to start i have to set it at about 10 degrees ATDC. where is the problem or what am i doing wrong? any help would truly be appreciated. billllllllll in kennewick washington 103 degrees and hot hot hot on sunday. rain, thunder & lightning on monday. overcast but warm today. ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/