SV: [Chrysler300] Gentlemen, start your engines (if you can)

["Narve Nordanger" <narve.n@xxxxxxx>]

I myself used  welding equipment cables about 1/2" thick and with a myriad
of treads inside (they come in both red and black) and soldered the ends
shut to avoid moisture creeping in (trick from the boating fraternity). As
Rich points out, it is a common problem with (modern?) fuel vaporizing in
the carbs, so a on/off electric fuel pump could be handy to fill the glass
bowls and carbs before starting. Otherwise, keeping everything in good shape
always help.

The starting problem with 6V Hemi is not something new. I strongly believe
that it was commented upon in the early 80s that owners of 55s was reluctant
to shut off their idling NewYorkers and C-300s for any short stops.

On the other hand, this akward starting can also be used as a fund raiser:
With your hot 6V Hemi cranking so slow that compared to a modern car it is
like next to the last sigh from the starter you can take bets from everyone
around, asking: "How much would you bet on this car will not start without
opening the hood or anything else more radical?" My car always has started
(eventually) and a good large 6V battery will crank the Hemi for at least
3 -5 minutes although slowly. After gaining confidence in this, I once won
enough cash from my 12V co-travellers to get a free tank of gas afterwards.

Narve
C-300 in Norway

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  Sendt: 25. mai 2007 01:55
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  Emne: [Chrysler300] Gentlemen, start your engines (if you can)


  Diameter or gage of the battery cable was also deemed important. As a
quick
  fix to a failed lead battery end of the ground cable, I purchased a
standard
  cable of proper length (and RED as a REMINDER). It was for a 12-Volt
system
  and about 1/2 the diameter of the original.

  My 1955 C-300 starts great and on the first couple of revolutions IF it
has
  fuel in the carbs and glass filter bowls. Sometimes this fuel stays there
  and sometimes it disappears. My fuel pump is an original rebuilt with
  current materials, but I do believe that sometimes the check valve within
it
  may leak back.

  Several of you have counseled me to add an electric fuel pump, wired up
for
  intermittent action at starting. Others recommend carb overhauls to
  eliminate leakage from them to the manifold. Both these recommendations
  seem reasonable. I have a good, strong HD Group 2 battery that will crank
  long enough to get gas to the carbs, even when it seems the whole system
is
  empty. I sometimes prime the system with starting fluid to save time and
  wear and tear on the starting system, but that is a PIA and often takes
  twice to establish normal fuel flow.

  My car came to me with two manual chokes that appear to be made to replace
  the automatic choke internals. The car spent its working life in Colorado
  so perhaps the previous owner had the same problems. He kept the car about
  30 years, so he must have loved it in spite of its slow-starting problems.
  Chrysler even noted this and went to 12 Volt systems the next year. I
don't
  recall hearing or reading of poor starting problems with the '56-'58
hemi's.

  That's it for starters

  C-300'ly,
  Rich Barber
  Brentwood, CA
  1955 C-300

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  From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
  Behalf Of Narve Nordanger
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:30 AM
  To: artc@xxxxxxxxxxx; 300 Club
  Subject: SV: [Chrysler300] slow starting 55 new yorker

  The issue has been discussed previously on this list, try to look 6 months
  back.

  How about new battery cables (corrosion tends to creep into them, creating
  increased restistance and less cranking power), rebuilt carbs (did alot
for
  me). The starter normally anyhow cranks slowly, especially when hot.

  In the old days I always carried a 12V spare battery and some heavy
jumping
  cables with me, if nothing else helped that would do the trick. Especially
  handy when travelling by ferry where engines had to be switched off during
  transit, and everybody else was waiting for you to start up on arrival.
  Eventually, I got tired of pushing the C-300 off the ferry... Best story
was
  actually when pulled over by law for speeding (inherent with 300s?), and
  they afterwards had to give me 12V starting help to clear the area for new
  "customers".

  Nowadays I am not that fond of pushing cars, so I try to plan ahead and
  never stop the engine unless time to cool down.

  Narve in Norway
  22 years of 6V Chrysler experience

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  Sendt: 24. mai 2007 15:52
  Til: 300 Club
  Emne: [Chrysler300] slow starting 55 new yorker

  Hi Gang, Art here, In addition to my 300G I also have a newly restored
  '55 new yorker. It's a crapshoot whether it will start at ahy given time.
  The motor turns over very slowly like a weak battery, especially when hot.
  I still have the 6 volt system and have tried everything.rebuilt
  starter,new
  selanoid and relay and a new battery. I know these cars started better
  than
  this when new so why not now. Ary suggestions??. This is probably a common
  problem and I hope somebody has a solution.

  Thanks Art

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