One more time, without HTML. That stuff is sneaky. Rich Gil & gang: Are we talking about the VIN tag on the A pillar/door frame or the tag on the firewall/cowl/radiator support? The only picture I noted for the 300-D had two big Phillips-head metal screws in it. And what is the proper nomenclature for each of these two metal plates? I don't think the body numbers were called VIN's until a few years after 1955. If on the firewall, is the VIN tag weld fastening you describe applicable for all years? My specific interest is the cowl-mounted VIN tag on my 1955. It came off when I was trying to read it, but it seemed to have been riveted to the cowl with wimpy rivets. I put a couple of metal screws into it until some permanent and proper fix can be made. Is it properly painted body color? Mine was sprayed the incorrect white at its restoration. Would there be decent primer and/or paint under the tag? My door frame mounted VEHICLE NO. tag seems to be stainless steel and appears to be spot welded at two dimples--but the dimples are a little rusty and could be rivets. Or perhaps the spot welding process changed the metallurgy of the SS plate. It was masked off when the door frame pillar was painted at restoration time, but a little of the proper Platinum color shows around the edge where it was masked off. It does look like that SS plate was affixed after the body was painted originally. I note that the 300D did not attract a bid with a minimum of $25K specified. And the white C-300 with the odd bumpers did not meet reserve after 18 bids to $35,377. Doesn't tell us much about market values other than expectations appear to exceed market demand in the e-bay venue. In going through the Barrett-Jackson Sneak Peek catalog, I discovered a few interesting inconsistencies. One featured car is the beautiful 1954 Chrysler d'Elegance--with a 354 hemi. One would think that it would have had a 331 like other Chryslers of that year, but perhaps it's engine was replaced--oops-demerits-Or was Chrysler experimenting with larger displacement HEMI's in 1954? ? A pretty red 300C convertible lot #1264 is described as being the "First year for the HEMI Letter car". First year for the convertible, anyway. Also a nice looking red 300G convertible-lot#1299, "Completely restored to AACA National 1st Place specifications". If either of these are member's cars, I wish you the best of luck in raising the bar. A rising tide lifts all boats. C-300'ly, Rich Barber Brentwood, CA 1955 C-300 (VEHICLE NO. 3N551198) > >In a message dated 12/8/2005 12:09:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, >george @ mckovich .com writes: > >Group..... >On my flat panel screen it looks like the lower hole in the vin plate has a >rivet in it. I cannot tell for sure about the upper hole. Did they start >putting rivets in vin plates in 1958?? > >George > > > >George and All: >The VIN plates were NEVER pop rivited nor screwed on. They were spotwelded >only. 300ly, Gil > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/