Re: [Chrysler300] chrysler 300 people:our shrinkingdemographic

["Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Again well said, especially the part regarding the Corvette mentality.  I 
also own an older Corvette(and have owned many others) and some these guys 
are just anal nutso.  If you do not have the proper amount of engine paint 
overspray on your exhaust manifold or you have filled in your body seams you 
are a candidate to be burned at the stake or at least subject to a couple of 
hours in the stocks.

Roger Schaaf
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From: "Richard Osborne" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <js23rob@xxxxxxx>; <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] chrysler 300 people:our shrinkingdemographic


> Lee and All,
>
> First of all, I am still in the "under 40 club" for a few more months. I 
> agree with Lee that the Letter Cars are not treated with much recognition 
> in our age group. I had a clear view of this fact last weekend at the 
> Chrysler Classic in Columbus, OH. This is admittedly a drag race show, but 
> I took the G coupe. I was really amazed at the ignorance that my Muscle 
> Car buddies showed towards these cars. These are my freinds from around 
> the country. Once they took the time to check out the car, they were, by 
> their own words, very impressed with the engineering that went into the 
> cars. These are guys who own Hemi Cuda's, Challengers, Road Runners... 
> Also, I learned that a couple of them are still in the closet about these 
> cars. They love them, but don't show it openly (turns out a freind from 
> Indy bought the black G convert @ Barrett Jackson. NEVER would have 
> guessed this). The reason for the open ignorance was varrying, but usually 
> had to do with the fact that the cars are rarely seen because people 
> rarely drive these cars to the shows.
>
> I disagree with the treatment towards me by older members in the club. My 
> experience has been very welcoming. I have, however, heard that others 
> have not felt welcomed, I guess I got lucky with a few select members 
> initially who took me in, or maybe it's beacuse I always had a cooler full 
> of beer in the back of the truck (before the G was finished). Also, I 
> brought lawn chairs. Who goes to a car show without beer and lawn 
> chairs?!?!?! I always thought these were required accessories.
>
> Although I tried to do this G close to original appearance, I get upset 
> that Mopar people are gaining a reputation for being purists for 
> originality. I call this the Corvette syndrome. I got into Mopars because 
> of the proven performance advantages. This means that the cars are to be 
> driven, and driven hard. Grease pencil markings and date coded parts are 
> nice for museums, but don't do anything to help go fast.
>
> Finally Lee, when you come to Columbus this Fall for the Mopar Nats, look 
> me up.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Richard Osborne
>
>
>>>> "Lee Meyer" <js23rob@xxxxxxx> 06/15/05 8:44 PM >>>
> Let me start out by letting everyone know I am all of 40 years old. I am
> probably one of the youngest members of the club, or both clubs for that
> matter. I am also very active in the mopar world. I attend many shows
> around the country every year and I currently have no less than 5
> restoration projects going on. 90% of all work is done here at my house
> by me. I am mostly a musclecar guy but I do have a strong interest in
> the fin cars as well. I am not a rich guy. This info is just to give you
> a little info on my world only. I believe that I and others like me are
> the future of the hobby, and I am disappointed. Here is why.
> All of these shows I attend, the musclecar thing is the main deal. Kinda
> easy to understand really, probably the largest group of car enthusiasts
> ever. Consisting of the baby boomers all the way to the gen-Xers, the
> people in that group have dough and are willing to spend it, and there
> are many more that have yet to approach the age of having enough
> disposable income to buy cars and parts that will soon enough.
> It is very rare to see a 300 at a big show. One or two, here and there
> and that is all. I have been to a few 300 club type events and I have
> not exactly felt welcome. A few people talked to me but mostly I felt
> like I was kinda not invited. Most of the folks were much older and kept
> to themselves. It was like I walked into an old VFW hall. I am not
> trying to be offensive, just being honest about how it was for me. Now
> here is what I think would help.
> Many more of you people have to get to big events. The mopar nats in
> Columbus for one. This is the mother of all mopar events. I know
> Carlisle is nice but the mopar nats is where it's at. How are new and
> younger people going to get interested in these cars if they don't see
> them anywhere? Maybe some of you old timers could be a little friendlier
> to the younger people. If some 26 year old comments that your 300F would
> look sweet with custom rims and you give the guy a scowl you not only
> turned him off to you personally but probably to that type of car as
> well. You could invite him to come over and check the car out closer and
> make a friend instead! If installing custom wheels on a 300 is all it
> takes to get some new and younger people interested in these cars don't
> you think its worth it?
> I know some of you are saying that 300 letter cars are rare, that is why
> you don't see them anywhere. Let me tell you that's crap. In the mopar
> world letter cars are common. I restored a challenger convert a few
> years ago, dodge made 31 of them with its option package. I drove it in
> the rain to shows. This year in Vegas at the Mopars at the strip show
> there were 4 Real 70 hemi challenger converts, 5 real 71 hemicuda
> converts and a 70 hemicuda convert under one tent. Only 9 of the
> challengers were produced and 11 cudas. This is the crummiest mopar show
> in the country right now and the rarest cars you can imagine were being
> driven around like minivans. So get out and drive these cars to some
> shows! Go dragracing! Try to be a little friendlier to younger people.
> Let's keep the stuck up attitudes in England where they belong!
> I went to an edsel show once. 27 guys hanging around with their cars
> they all bought brand new. Don't let it happen to you!
> Enough for now,
> Lee in San Diego
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