Re: [Chrysler300] Hood Pad 300 G

["Johnl" <john@xxxxxxxxx>]

A couple of issues here.  First, if a 300B came from the factory with wires and it is in judging at a Chrysler 300 Club International meet then there is no issue.  If the wheels were added later the car is not correct as to the build sheet.

Wire wheels were offered from 1953 through 1956 and there were three variations that I know of.   For sometime I though they were offered from 1951 up but Sherwood Kahlenberg pointed out to me that it was 1953 through 1956.   Thanks Sher, as I've always said our cars are a continuing learning process and no one has all of the answers.

1.    Plymouth/Dodge with 48 spokes and the lacing was on the outer lip of the wheel like the T-Bird wires.

2.    DeSoto/Chrysler also with 48 spokes but the lacing is further back in the wheel and this is also wider than the Plymouth/Dodge.  Both are a 15", 5 bolt on a 4 1/2" pattern.

3.    Imperial wheels were 52 spokes with the same lacing as the DeSoto/Chrysler wheel but were wider.  These were 15" on a 5 1/2"bolt pattern.  Also they were used on DeSoto and Chrysler wagons, but I'm not sure about Plymouth and Dodge.  I've read and heard stories about a bulletin sent out via Chrysler that these wheels would not be offered after a certain date in 1955 on Imperials and Wagons.  My guess is it had something to do with a weight issue regarding these particular cars.

Most of the repro wires for these cars I've seen are all done in 52 spoke version.  I have no idea why.  A few months ago I decided to install wires on our '55 NYer T&C and was lucky enough to find a set of newly finished correct original wheels.

Last, a subject that has not been covered in any of this is the caps for all of these wheels.  There are two sources that I know of.  Bob Bornstein in Southern California was offering them and the product was excellent.  Now Coker Tire has them available.  It is my opinion that Bob's are nicer but at 60 mph you can't see the difference.  If you have a set of originals don't spend the time and money to replate them.  The repros are a far better way to go.

John Lazenby
Southern California, just minutes from Disneyland
1955 Chrysler New Yorker Deluxe Town & Country
1955 Imperial Newport
1955 Chrysler C300
1956 Chrysler 300B
1957 Chrysler 300C Coupe
1960 Chrysler 300F Coupe
1963  Volkswagen Beetle



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <barber@xxxxxxxxx>; "Kathy Rook" <kmrook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <moparpjf@xxxxxxx>; <paradise42@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Hood Pad 300 G


> 
> It is suggested that the wire spoke wheels are correct from 1953 to 1956. 
> My understanding is that having a 56 B judged at a Chrysler 300 Club meet 
> will throw some into a heated dispute as these wheels are claimed by some to 
> not be correct on a 56.
> 
> Roger Schaaf
> 300 B Calyfornea
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kathy Rook" <kmrook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <barber@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Hood Pad 300 G
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> >
> > Rich,  I have approximately 44 Mopar original wire wheels; Dodge has 48
> > spokes coming to the outside of the rim.  Chrysler l953-l956 correct
> > only for these years have 48 spokes.  Imperial with the larger center
> > hole, used l953-1956 only have 52 spokes.  Sincerely,  Don Rook
> >
> > Rich Barber wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe the hood pad would absorb more sound (and dirt) if the fuzzy
> >> side was facing the engine.  My C-300 has the under side of the hood
> >> undercoated, just to be different.  It probably does absorb some sound
> >> and might help prevent drumming and oil canning.  I didn't do it!
> >>
> >> The big white brute took three awards at the Good Guy all American Get
> >> Together in Pleasanton, CA today.  A nice birthday present as the car
> >> was 50 years old last week.
> >>
> >> As usual, our car was one of three MoPars in a sea of bellybutton cars.
> >> Also, as usual, lots of interest from car guys of all ages.  Made
> >> contact with the new owner of the Pahrump Tango Red '55.  He says it is
> >> VIN #1015.  Several of you have commented on this modified car that has
> >> a 392, air, disc brakes(?), improper wheels & tires.  The new owner
> >> lives in nearby Livermore and we will try to get him into the club where
> >> he can get resto-religion (he is a pastor!).  We will try to show them
> >> together in the local shows and I hope to bring him and the car to South
> >> Lake Tahoe.
> >>
> >> Question of the day:  How many spokes on the original Motor Wheel brand
> >> wire wheels on the 1955 C-300?  Mine has 48 and I see others have 52.
> >>
> >> Rich Barber
> >> Brentwood, CA
> >> 1955 C-300
> >>
> >> >
> >> >In a message dated 03/20/2005 7:37:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >> >
> >> >Steve  Estok and I have a difference of opinion about the installation 
> >> >of a
> >> >hood  pad. I thought the fabric side faced the engine and Steve thinks 
> >> >the
> >> >hard  side faces the engine.
> >> >
> >> >I have no picture references other than the  archive shots of a 300g 
> >> >engine
> >> >compartment. It looks like the fuzzy side  is out.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I believe that the fuzzy side faces the engine.  That is the way mine 
> >> >was
> >> >and the club judges didn't note that it was incorrect.  Gil is the guy 
> >> >to ask.
> >> >
> >> >Pete Fitch
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