----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Meisner" <meisnerinc@xxxx> To: <pacesetter300@xxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Meets > > Well Put Russ !!, there aren't that many real 300"s , about 3600 odd for all > the years together , that is what makes these cars so unique , I have no > difficulty in a club that wants to welcome everyone... but I believe this > club should be dedicated to what it is all about ... 300's . Just because > your dog is a pure bred and gets out of the pen and gets bred by a mutt > doesn't make the off spring a purebred . > > Ben Meisner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ Vaughan" <Pacesetter300@xxxx> > To: "Robert Merritt" <okbobwynmer@xxxx> > Cc: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Meets > > > > Hi "other" Bob, > > > > I don't know if you have attended any 300 International meets or not. > Regular 300's are welcome, but looked upon like blacks in Mississippi during > the '60's. The "sport" 300's are not judged, cannot be entered in any shows > and the owner is not eligible for any awards - even trivial ones like long > distance or hard luck. The 300 International club is a "Letter Car" club, > period. On 300's built before 1962 that's a clear cut designation. In '62 > the distinction between a "letter car" and "sport" 300 became a little > murky. Sport 300's were available with full "H" performance options, just > not the quad bucket seat interior. In '63 the interior option changed. My > "sport" 300 convertible has the same claret leather interior (sans tach & > 150 MPH speedo) as a "J" and the same 413 HP engine as a base "K" or "L". > That makes it a 'kissin" cousin to a letter car, but not a letter car. As > long as members understand the distinction up front and don't take offense > when their "almost" > > letter car isn't recognized as a letter car, there should be no problems > or complaints. > > > > In my opinion, the other (AKA West coast) club misses the point regarding > 300's. There should be a 300 club that recognizes sport and letter car > 300's. Disclaimer- Because I feel that way, doesn't mean I want the > "International" (AKA East coast) club to change in any way. The "Westy" > guys also welcome Dodge Chargers for instance as well as other Mopars. As > much as I love Dodge Chargers they have no relevance to 300's. How do you > expect members who can judge a letter car, judge a Charger? To maintain a > degree of excellence in restoring and judging letter cars, the scope > necessarily has to be narrow. As has been the long standing policy of the > "Easty"club. As much as I can argue that my '63 "sport" is every bit as > competent a vehicle as some letter cars, it doesn't make it one. > > > > Again, in my opinion, the "Westy" guys have had their problems because of > trying to imbrace too many facets of Mopardom. I think they could be a great > club if they only focused on 300's, letter and "sport". One small example > of my point. A few years back, I ordered a set of '62 300 "H" factory > photos from their club store. When I got the photo's I was shocked. Both > pictures were of 300 sports and not letter cars. The hardtop was clearly a > sport and the convertible was a sport with H performance option(not the H > interior). Last I noticed, no one had caught the error. This would never > happen with the "Easty" guys. > > > > Enough on this soapbox. > > > > 300ly > > > > Russ Vaughan > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxx> wrote:I'm confused. > > I like 300s with or without letters and live in north central Oklahoma. > Please tell me where the dividing line between the "East coast club" and the > "West coast club" is so I can be sure I'm in the "right" club. > > Bob Merritt, No, not that one. I live in Enid, Oklahoma , so if this > offends anyone, don't blame him. > > Personally, I would hate to live near Lake Tahoe and have a show-worthy > 300 and know that I wasn't welcome because I was in the "wrong" club > > > > Owen & Jo Grigg <ram300@xxxx> wrote: > > Hi Ray & all, > > I am very interested in attending the 2005 Lake Tahoe meet. The big draw > > card for me of a combined meet, travelling fom NZ, would be to > see/meet/cram > > in as many neat cars/people as possible in a short period of time. > > Now from my selfish point of view I'd like to see the lot! Of course I > don't > > have the huge job that Ray has to organize/host it. What I don't > understand > > is the "never combine with the other 300 Club" bit. Maybe I'm out of line > > here, I don't know the goings on of the "other club" but wouldn't it be > > great to see a totally HUGE meet. Or am I just asking for the impossible > to > > happen. > > Just my 2c worth > > Owen > > Auckland > > New Zealand > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxx> > > To: Chrysler 300 Listserver <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 12:10 PM > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Meets > > > > > > Hi al; > > It has come to my attention that some have been mis-informed or mis-read > > some e-mails recently. > > The mis-information is that we are hosting a combined meet at Lake tahoe > in > > fall of 2005. This is TOTALLY WRONG!!! As long as I'm Meet Coordinator.... > > > > THERE IS AND NEVER WILL BE A COMBINED MEET WITH THE OTHER 300 CLUB! > > > > Now if you care, about meets, read on. > > > > For those of you who don't know, there is an e-mail list group called > > Forward Look. this is a group of about 475 people who discuss the Mopars > > called "Forward Look", the focus of this list is 1955-1961 Chrysler > > Corporation vehicles. This is NOT a club, does not have an office, a > > publication, nor does it have any "club" like structure. Strictly a e-mail > > list. > > > > Nov 20, of last year in a Forward Look e-mail, a list member suggested > that > > it would be nice if the Forward Look people got together, and mentioned > Lake > > Tahoe as a good location. > > > > I, as the 300 Club Meet Coordinator, and Meet publicity getter, responded > > that the 300 Club was having a meet in 2005 in Lake tahoe., and anyone was > > welcome to stop by and see our cars. Details on request. > > > > Wayne Grafen jumped in and said that it was a great place to do this and > > thought that after some years as a e-mail list that it was time that some > of > > them got together to "Meet". Sorta like the way our club started. > > > > Larry Jett, as Meet Co-host of the Tahoe meet, e-mailed that it sounded > > good to him, and that he had a Hotel blocked out for the meet that the 300 > > Club wasn't going to use after all and if anyone on the Forward Look list > > wanted to organize a get-together, the hotel would be available. He also > > suggested that if they indeed did have a get-together, we could possably > > share a show field. He pointedly did not offer to host or combine the > groups > > in any real fashion, nor does it in any way have anything to do with, or > was > > the other 300 club ever mentioned! > > One person did refer to contacting Wayne as to the details in conjunction > > with the West Coast 300 club. This was quickly corrected by both Larry and > > myself. We made sure that everyone was aware that this was the 300 Club > > International, based in Jonesville...the "Eastern club". > > > > Someone has read the e-mails and started telling our club members that > this > > was a meet combined with the other club. How anyone who reads English > could > > get that from the e-mails, is beyond me. Furthermore, no one has contacted > > me as the 300 Club Meet Coordinator, to ask what is going on. Just bitched > > in the background. I have on file all the e-mails discussing the above, > and > > will share with anyone who would like to see how something so dumb could > > evolve. Unsubstantiated rumor is a terrible thing. > > > > So, I repeat: THERE IS AND NEVER WILL BE A COMBINED MEET WITH THE OTHER > 300 > > CLUB! > > > > See you all at the Spring Meet in Whitehall, PA. > > Ray > > -- > > Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > For list server instructions, go to > > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > For list server instructions, go to > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! 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