Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Meets

[Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxx>]

Hi "other" Bob, 

I don't know if you have attended any 300 International meets or not. Regular 300's are welcome, but looked upon like blacks in Mississippi during the '60's. The "sport" 300's are not judged, cannot be entered in any shows and the owner is not eligible for any awards - even trivial ones like long distance or hard luck. The 300 International club is a "Letter Car" club, period. On 300's built before 1962 that's a clear cut designation. In '62 the distinction between a "letter car" and "sport" 300 became a little murky. Sport 300's were available with full "H" performance options, just not the quad bucket seat interior. In '63 the interior option changed. My "sport" 300 convertible has the same claret leather interior (sans tach & 150 MPH speedo) as a "J" and the same 413 HP engine as a base "K" or "L". That makes it a 'kissin" cousin to a letter car, but not a letter car. As long as members understand the distinction up front and don't take offense when their "almost"
letter car isn't recognized as a letter car, there should be no problems or complaints. 

In my opinion, the other (AKA West coast) club misses the point regarding 300's. There should be a 300 club that recognizes sport and letter car 300's. Disclaimer- Because I feel that way, doesn't mean I want the "International" (AKA East coast) club to change in any way. The "Westy" guys also welcome Dodge Chargers for instance as well as other Mopars. As much as I love Dodge Chargers they have no relevance to 300's. How do you expect members who can judge a letter car, judge a Charger? To maintain a degree of excellence in restoring and judging letter cars, the scope necessarily has to be narrow. As has been the long standing policy of the "Easty"club. As much as I can argue that my '63 "sport" is every bit as competent a vehicle as some letter cars, it doesn't make it one. 

Again, in my opinion, the "Westy" guys have had their problems because of trying to imbrace too many facets of Mopardom. I think they could be a great club if they only focused on 300's, letter and "sport". One small example of my point. A few years back, I ordered a set of '62 300 "H" factory photos from their club store. When I got the photo's I was shocked. Both pictures were of 300 sports and not letter cars. The hardtop was clearly a sport and the convertible was a sport with H performance option(not the H interior). Last I noticed, no one had caught the error. This would never happen with the "Easty" guys. 

Enough on this soapbox.

300ly

Russ Vaughan





Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxx> wrote:


Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxx> wrote:I'm confused.
I like 300s with or without letters and live in north central Oklahoma. Please tell me where the dividing line between the "East coast club" and the "West coast club" is so I can be sure I'm in the "right" club. 
Bob Merritt, No, not that one. I live in Enid, Oklahoma , so if this offends anyone, don't blame him. 
Personally, I would hate to live near Lake Tahoe and have a show-worthy 300 and know that I wasn't welcome because I was in the "wrong" club

Owen & Jo Grigg <ram300@xxxx> wrote:
Hi Ray & all,
I am very interested in attending the 2005 Lake Tahoe meet. The big draw
card for me of a combined meet, travelling fom NZ, would be to see/meet/cram
in as many neat cars/people as possible in a short period of time.
Now from my selfish point of view I'd like to see the lot! Of course I don't
have the huge job that Ray has to organize/host it. What I don't understand
is the "never combine with the other 300 Club" bit. Maybe I'm out of line
here, I don't know the goings on of the "other club" but wouldn't it be
great to see a totally HUGE meet. Or am I just asking for the impossible to
happen.
Just my 2c worth
Owen
Auckland
New Zealand

----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxx>
To: Chrysler 300 Listserver <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Meets


Hi al;
It has come to my attention that some have been mis-informed or mis-read
some e-mails recently.
The mis-information is that we are hosting a combined meet at Lake tahoe in
fall of 2005. This is TOTALLY WRONG!!! As long as I'm Meet Coordinator....

THERE IS AND NEVER WILL BE A COMBINED MEET WITH THE OTHER 300 CLUB!

Now if you care, about meets, read on.

For those of you who don't know, there is an e-mail list group called
Forward Look. this is a group of about 475 people who discuss the Mopars
called "Forward Look", the focus of this list is 1955-1961 Chrysler
Corporation vehicles. This is NOT a club, does not have an office, a
publication, nor does it have any "club" like structure. Strictly a e-mail
list.

Nov 20, of last year in a Forward Look e-mail, a list member suggested that
it would be nice if the Forward Look people got together, and mentioned Lake
Tahoe as a good location.

I, as the 300 Club Meet Coordinator, and Meet publicity getter, responded
that the 300 Club was having a meet in 2005 in Lake tahoe., and anyone was
welcome to stop by and see our cars. Details on request.

Wayne Grafen jumped in and said that it was a great place to do this and
thought that after some years as a e-mail list that it was time that some of
them got together to "Meet". Sorta like the way our club started.

Larry Jett, as Meet Co-host of the Tahoe meet, e-mailed that it sounded
good to him, and that he had a Hotel blocked out for the meet that the 300
Club wasn't going to use after all and if anyone on the Forward Look list
wanted to organize a get-together, the hotel would be available. He also
suggested that if they indeed did have a get-together, we could possably
share a show field. He pointedly did not offer to host or combine the groups
in any real fashion, nor does it in any way have anything to do with, or was
the other 300 club ever mentioned!
One person did refer to contacting Wayne as to the details in conjunction
with the West Coast 300 club. This was quickly corrected by both Larry and
myself. We made sure that everyone was aware that this was the 300 Club
International, based in Jonesville...the "Eastern club".

Someone has read the e-mails and started telling our club members that this
was a meet combined with the other club. How anyone who reads English could
get that from the e-mails, is beyond me. Furthermore, no one has contacted
me as the 300 Club Meet Coordinator, to ask what is going on. Just bitched
in the background. I have on file all the e-mails discussing the above, and
will share with anyone who would like to see how something so dumb could
evolve. Unsubstantiated rumor is a terrible thing.

So, I repeat: THERE IS AND NEVER WILL BE A COMBINED MEET WITH THE OTHER 300
CLUB!

See you all at the Spring Meet in Whitehall, PA.
Ray
--
Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas




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