In a message dated 3/24/03 4:34:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, gbarker@xxxx writes: The 14 inch HD wheel used on our Brutes have a 14 x 6.5 wheel used with station wagons, probably police and/or taxis. A thin metal tape measurer inserted in any of the four cooling spaces and hooked on the inside bead will measure 8 7/8 inches to the outside bead. This with a tire mounted so you can't just measure 6.5 inches between the inside upright beads. Should anybody find same in a pile at a wrecking yard, they would be well advised to buy and stockpile. I have a 6.5 in my garage with a 9 inch split on the inside bead caused by old age, metal fatigue, radial tires and/or driving too dang fast. These wheels aren't going to last forever. Might some bright manufacturer be interested in making some NORS wheels? Larry Jett, the number two registrant at the Battle Creek hotel.