Hi Mike, and all Here is my 2 cent's worth re : a/c - R134 just does not cut the mustard as far as I am concerned. I have yet to see a R134 system that blows ICE COLD like an old R12 system ! For the past three years, I have been using FR12 . It is one of the many R12 substitutes . It is a blend of three components - 59% R134a, 39.5% R-124, and 1.5%R-600 . Pennzoil was the original distributor of this stuff and it was the first R12 alternative approved by the EPA in 1995. Because it has the LEAST amount of R134a, it works better for R12 conversions . The duct temp in my 300G is down to about 38 degrees ! as it should be... Click on http://www.refimax.com/products/fr12.htm Oh, and by the way, you didn't hear it here, but this stuff IS compatible with R12. John