I used Mr Goviers services in 1999 when I bought a 68 Dodge Charger. I paid $50 for him to decode the body plate and didn't discover anything I didn't already know. The document I got in return was stamped with an "official" stamp that persumably makes my one of 17,000 Dodge worth more. I spent .50 cents on a stamp last year and sent Gil Cunningham a letter requesting similar info on my 300F. I got back more than I bargained for along with a nice letter from a man who doesn't pretend to have now magicly increased the value of my car by being exposed to its roots. Thanks Gil. I detest reading Hemmings and other ads that Read "Galen Govier Certified". Is that like an ISO9000 certification in the mopar side of the car hobby. I read Govier's column in High performance Mopar for a laugh to find out how many 318 3 speed column shift 67 Fury III 2 dr hardtop with vinyl interiors were sold without air conditioning in Florida. Govier admitted he knows little about pre 62 cars and less about "C" body. In a recent article he stated he did not know ifthere were any "c" body 4 speeds prior to 62. Only 9 very famous ones Mr Govier. I feel better now. Paul Martin Certified Car Nut ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com