Re: [Chrysler300] Gas Chemistry

[Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds like many are not happy with the way life is.

Well fellows, we live the good life here.
There are 3 Club members with-in 5 miles of each other here in western 
Arkansas. There's  good reasons for that:

Lots of reasonable priced homes and acreage, $100,000 will buy much 
land with nice home and barn. If you have much money, we have 
properties up to $1 mil and more.
Great southern people.
NO zoning! Build a barn, shop, storage shed, whatever. Want to collect 
cars, line them up, it's your land.
Vehicle 25 years or older? 1 time registration fee of $10., for 
permanent tags.
Trailer? Permanent tags $35., one time. (can't transfer it to a new 
trailer)
Car tags $22, trucks $27
Central to the country. Many places to go to with-in a days drive.
A hotbed of cars. Street rods, customs, antiques, trucks, everywhere.
Christian Motorcycle Assn.'s headquarters is here. So we have hundreds 
of wonderful hogs, trikes, custom bikes, here in town several times a 
year and the riders are really nice people.
NO emissions laws! Newspapers, Mags, glass, steel  cans, all go to 
charity. Alum cans sell for 35 cents a pound. Table scraps go to 
compost. We burn the rest, including leaves and slash from the 
property.

Let me know, I know some great agents, Ray
Ray Jones, Mena, AR in the Ouachita Mountains in western Arkansas
Y'all com'on down and we'll sit ona porch and sip a few.

On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Roger Schaaf wrote:

> Bob is correct.? We all like the environment.? But many of these fools 
> are
> extremists and their costs to Californians and our economy is in the
> billions of dollars each and every year.? In the Bay area where I 
> live(San
> Francisco Bay area) our air was considered far cleaner then Federal
> Standards.? Thru some backroom trading via our local Politicos the 
> decision
> was made that our current semi annual smog check methods were not 
> draconian
> enough.? So now we must go thru a check that requires your auto to me
> connected and check on a chassis dyno and a cost that is perhaps 
> double what
> it was before.? My local Jaguar dealer(most people who own Jags are to
> oblivious to realize the screwing they get at every visit) charges 
> 300.00
> for this.? The local smog station charges only 60 bucks(still a rip)
> thankfully.? However my point is that dyno checking is totally 
> unwarranted
> and accomplishes zilch, nada, nothing to the well being of the Bay area
> inhabitants.? My 3 late model cars always measure 0 0 0 for the Nox, 
> Co and
> Hydrocarbons(may be some other checks, which I forget).? But I and the
> millions who live here must go thru this every couple of years to 
> appease
> these extremists.? Thankfully my Corvette is a 1971 and my B is old 
> enough
> so they do not have to go thru this stuff.? I do feel sorry for Bob and
> others who must go thru this crap just to appease some Morons who make 
> these
> laws and those who vote for them.? Just as I said earlier, these 
> decisions
> are made my miscreants whose scientific knowledge does not even include
> knowing that the 24 hour cycle of night and day is a result of the 
> rotation
> of the earth on its axis.
>
> Also we now have been able to get rid of the white elephant of MTBE, 
> but now
> are forced to use Ethanol(which I have discussed before) which is a 
> result
> of the Farm State lobbies(like Nebraska where I am from).? Again stupid
> moronic decisions that cost this country billions each year and do 
> nothing
> to for any of us except that those who benefit financially(for example
> farmers, and smog check stations, and those who build their equipment, 
> and
> Politicos who get money from those buying the votes).
>
> As Pogo has said, "we have met the enemy and the enemy is us".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Chrysler 300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Gas Chemistry
>
>
> >
> > Steve and list,
> >
> > I live in California I see Ray's post as being very germane to the
> interests of this board. You've really struck a nerve here, and as a
> California car hobbyist I can readily tell you I support Ray's 
> position.
> Yes, the air is cleaner and that is a very good thing, but if it was 
> left up
> to CARB and the Sierra Club, we would all be driving electric cars and
> bicycles, and living in high density apartments.? CARB is a government
> bureaucracy that must constantly find new ways to generate revenue for
> itself by forcing the liberal environmentalist agenda down our throats,
> whether it makes sense or not.
> >
> > Take a look at the MTBE scandal.? CARB, with the full support of the
> Sierra Club, pushed through the requirement for adding MTBE to 
> California
> gas while the conservatives, (yes there are some in CA) supported by
> experts, (Dr. Bill Wattinberg for one) advised against it, citing 
> studies
> done in other states on MTBE negative effects.? The tree huggers knew 
> better
> of course, and MTBE became a requirement, polluting the groundwater as 
> a
> result.? It has now been removed from the gas, now that "they" know 
> better.
> >
> > California smog laws are draconian and getting worse. What happened 
> to our
> promised-by-law 25 year rolling exception for older cars that would 
> have
> exempted them from smog testing?? Well, it was changed to a 30 year
> exemption, and just 3 months ago, under pressure from CARB and the 
> Sierra
> Club, the 30 year rolling exemption was eliminated entirely!? From now 
> on,
> any car built from 1976 on will have to be smogged, forever, period! No
> exceptions. Even if you drive the car 10 miles a year! The worst part 
> of it,
> is that you can never do any modifications to the engine of the car 
> ever.
> No non-stock carburetor changes, air cleaners, nothing. It must stay 
> stock,
> forever.
> >
> > Case in point.? I owned a very low mileage 1979 MGB that I enjoyed
> immensely, and I was looking forward to the day that I could get rid 
> of the
> crappy factory Zenith carb that is difficult to keep in tune, and 
> inadequate
> for the demands of the engine.? I was planning on installing the Weber
> upgrade kit that included a new intake manifold, Weber carb and header 
> pipe.
> I was anxious to get more reliability, better mileage, and more 
> performance.
> That has all changed now because of CARB and the Sierra Club pressure 
> to
> eliminate the rolling 30 year exemption. Oh, and guess what...I only 
> drove
> the car about 1,000 miles a year.? I'm sure my little MGB was a major
> contributor to global warming, and the we know whats-best-for-everyone
> mentality of the Sierra club members are happy that my MGB will no 
> longer be
> polluting California's air, because I sold it on eBay to a collector 
> in St.
> Louis.? One other point...my last smog test with the MGB was a CARB 
> Dyno
> required test, not the static tests it always managed to pass before, 
> and
> the price doubled to $90 as well.
> >
> > This topic is of importance to this list.? It is important because 
> if we
> as car collectors are not vigilant, and if CARB, the Sierra Club, and 
> other
> tree huggers have their way, our right to drive our 300s freely as we 
> please
> will be taken away and our cars turned into static displays, being 
> trailered
> to car shows.
> >
> > The car collector has NO friends within CARB and the Sierra Club.? 
> As far
> as I'm concerned, they are the enemy and the sooner we all realize it, 
> the
> better off we will be.
> >
> > Bob Jasinski
> > Danville, CA (Near the Blackhawk museum, with many beautiful static 
> car
> displays)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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