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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Tri-City
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
2. Right hand, left hand.
From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
3. Re: Right hand, left hand.
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
4. RE: Right hand, left hand.
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: Right hand, left hand.
From: "G Moon" <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx>
6. RE: Right hand, left hand.
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. '61 radio faceplate...
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
8. '61 radio faceplate...; 60 300F fender trim
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. RE: Right hand, left hand.
From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. 1966 chrysler 300 2 dr htp
From: vvkizziar@xxxxxxx
11. 1958 Chrysler 300 D for sale
From: "Moana & Gerry Steinberg" <mopar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: Right hand, left hand.
From: joeypilot@xxxxxxx
13. RE: Right hand, left hand.
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
14. RE: '61 radio faceplate...; 60 300F fender trim
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
15. Ross Roy Data Book, 1960
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
16. left is left
From: "casa" <casa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: Right hand, left hand.
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
18. Re: DaimlerChrysler Announcement
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: Right hand, left hand.
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
20. RE: DaimlerChrysler Announcement
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
21. 300F Chrome
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
22. 300N
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
23. RE: 300N
From: "Hannon, John MAJ" <JHannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
24. Re: 300F Chrome
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:45:08 -0800 (PST)
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Tri-City
who then?
--- John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi, all
>
> Had occasion to see some work done by Tri-City. I
> was not impressed, at
> all, at all, and would not let them touch anything
> that would go on one of
> my cars. Just my 2 cent's worth.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "moparted" <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrome, Where to go
>
>
> > try here: www.tricityplating.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- hmpirish@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > I've just found out my plater has shut
> down,
> > > half way through my
> > > white B restoration. Any recommendations for
> the
> > > Mid America set - I'm in
> > > the Memphis area, but will ship as necessary.
> Any
> > > thoughts on cost are
> > > appreciated as well ! ! All the Best
> 300ing
> > > !
> > > Phil Irish
> > >
> >
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:50:23 -0600
From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Right hand, left hand.
The tightening action occurs under braking. Most cars on the road cannot
spin their wheels on dry pavement but the spinning wheel assembly can be
stopped in less than two seconds no matter what the speed. The rotating
lug nuts want to continue to rotate, thus tightening may take place.
This is the reason most trucks use right and left lug nuts. When a wheel
assembly leaves a moving truck it can easily become a lethal weapon.
Marshall
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:57:02 -0500
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Right hand, left hand.
Geez,
You guys are confusing my son. He is still working on ³Righty tighty, lefty
loosy². Better keep him away from my lug nuts. Well he does have a 50%
chance of getting it right any way.
Tony
Ps Kidding aside, all of the studs have been changed on my ³60 to righty
tighty, lefty loosy over the years.
>
> From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:50:23 -0600
> To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
>
> The tightening action occurs under braking. Most cars on the road cannot
> spin their wheels on dry pavement but the spinning wheel assembly can be
> stopped in less than two seconds no matter what the speed. The rotating
> lug nuts want to continue to rotate, thus tightening may take place.
> This is the reason most trucks use right and left lug nuts. When a wheel
> assembly leaves a moving truck it can easily become a lethal weapon.
>
> Marshall
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:13:08 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Right hand, left hand.
Maaaaannnnnn !!!!!!
Just when I thought I understood this mess, somebody throws in that lefty
loosy thing.
All kidding aside, I've had about 25 Mopars 61 thru 74, over the years and
I've never had one with the left hand studs on the right side. I did,
however, have a broken stud on my 69 Dart because a "long-time" Mopar
mechanic forgot about the left hand lugs when he rebuilt the rear end. And
that was just this past spring!
Also, when you take your car to the shop and they put 400 foot pounds of
torque on those lugs, it doesn't matter if they're left or right handed or
cross-threaded, those wheels aren't coming off.
Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Rinaldi [SMTP:awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: Marshall Larson; Chrysler 300 Club
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
>
> Geez,
>
> You guys are confusing my son. He is still working on ³Righty tighty,
> lefty
> loosy². Better keep him away from my lug nuts. Well he does have a 50%
> chance of getting it right any way.
>
> Tony
>
> Ps Kidding aside, all of the studs have been changed on my ³60 to righty
> tighty, lefty loosy over the years.
> >
> > From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:50:23 -0600
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
> >
>
> > The tightening action occurs under braking. Most cars on the road
> cannot
> > spin their wheels on dry pavement but the spinning wheel assembly can be
> > stopped in less than two seconds no matter what the speed. The rotating
> > lug nuts want to continue to rotate, thus tightening may take place.
> > This is the reason most trucks use right and left lug nuts. When a
> wheel
> > assembly leaves a moving truck it can easily become a lethal weapon.
> >
> > Marshall
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:32:49 -0500
From: "G Moon" <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Right hand, left hand.
When you must take your car to a shop where they remove and replace the
lugs, take your own wrench with you. I stand by the car and hand them the
wrench when it comes time to replace the lugs. (if they say I can't stay in
the shop with my car, then I don't use that shop.) I also explain about left
hand lugs. Otherwise, I can only hope I have a 10' pipe in the trunk to put
on the end of the wrench and hop up and down on it if I need to change a
tire. Being a shortie, I can probably get away with it better than you big
guys. Being female helps too. They can patronize me all they want, as long
as they do what I tell them.
Gloria Moon
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:35:59 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Right hand, left hand.
Usually, when I take any of my cars to the shop, which is a rare occasion, I
take a pipe along just to keep the mechanic in line.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: G Moon [SMTP:agmoon@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: 'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
>
> When you must take your car to a shop where they remove and replace the
> lugs, take your own wrench with you. I stand by the car and hand them the
> wrench when it comes time to replace the lugs. (if they say I can't stay
> in
> the shop with my car, then I don't use that shop.) I also explain about
> left
> hand lugs. Otherwise, I can only hope I have a 10' pipe in the trunk to
> put
> on the end of the wrench and hop up and down on it if I need to change a
> tire. Being a shortie, I can probably get away with it better than you
> big
> guys. Being female helps too. They can patronize me all they want, as
> long
> as they do what I tell them.
>
> Gloria Moon
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:49:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: '61 radio faceplate...
Today, I was shuffling a '61 Windsor parts car around,
and I noticed something odd. On '61s, the trim on the
face of the dash, around ignition and headlite switch
areas, has a pattern of very small vertical hashmarks
in black. The same trim is brushed on a '60, and I
think a diamond theme in '62. Anyhoo, the radio
faceplate matches. On this Windsor, however, the
hashmarks on the radio are white. The rest of the
dash has black hashmarks. It looks kind of weird
after looking at black for 19 years. And it doesn't
match. Double checked the G coupe - black. Dash for G
convert is here - black. New Yorker has a
dealer-installed knock-off radio, so it doesn't count.
Trivial, I know, but anybody seen a Golden Tone radio
with white trim before??
Andy
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:40:56 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: '61 radio faceplate...; 60 300F fender trim
Andy, for years I have owned a 1961 clock with WHITE hashmarks. Could never
figure it out, at all, at all. Never seen nuthin' like it. Now you send
this Scud about a matching radio to my clock. Aaaaargh. This makes it even
worse ! Hopefully someone else will repond with something that makes sense
!
Frank, only 1960 NewYorkers, I do believe, had the front fender trim on top
of the fenders. Any you might have seen on a 300F was owner-added.
Similarly, and occasionally, I have seen 300F's or 300G's with NewYorker
side moldings, around the wheelwells, etc. ; that stuff never came from the
factory that way. It perhaps COULD have been dealer added at customer's
request - lots of strange things went on back then !
John
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:36:40 -0800
From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Right hand, left hand.
You're a gal after my own heart!
Jennifer Allyn
-----Original Message-----
From: G Moon [mailto:agmoon@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:33 PM
To: 'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
When you must take your car to a shop where they remove and replace the
lugs, take your own wrench with you. I stand by the car and hand them
the
wrench when it comes time to replace the lugs. (if they say I can't stay
in
the shop with my car, then I don't use that shop.) I also explain about
left
hand lugs. Otherwise, I can only hope I have a 10' pipe in the trunk to
put
on the end of the wrench and hop up and down on it if I need to change a
tire. Being a shortie, I can probably get away with it better than you
big
guys. Being female helps too. They can patronize me all they want, as
long
as they do what I tell them.
Gloria Moon
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:10:45 EST
From: vvkizziar@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1966 chrysler 300 2 dr htp
Ladies and Gentlemen I am in dire need of a window glide with roller
for the rear 1/4 glass for my ride. It is the small square glide with roller
for the rear (back) small track. The part number is (old number) #2520662.
Now I realize this isn't a letter'd ride but I would sure appreciate the
help. thanks, jake
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:29:07 -0700
From: "Moana & Gerry Steinberg" <mopar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1958 Chrysler 300 D for sale
Received this from an owner in Orange, Calif. Anybody interested
can contact him direct: xeducator@xxxxxxxxx
300ly,
Gerry Steinberg
----- Original Message -----
From: Joy Rice
To: mopar@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: 1958 Chrysler 300 D
I am interested in selling my 1958 Chrysler 2 dr. hrdtop 300 D. I live in Orange county, California. I need some help on who I should contact and how. thanks, Louis
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:45 EST
From: joeypilot@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Right hand, left hand.
Good for you Gloria~ there are a lot of younger people out there that don't
have any idea that there are left hand lugs.
Joe Schmitt
Seattle
G H/T
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:25:30 -0600
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Right hand, left hand.
You also have to pay attention to more than right hand/left hand. A few
years ago when I had new tires installed on my conversion van, they put the
nuts back on with the beveled edge out!! It must have been the first day
for some new employee that had no training. This happened at a "name-brand"
tire store.
Best regards, Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: G Moon [mailto:agmoon@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:33 PM
To: 'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
When you must take your car to a shop where they remove and replace the
lugs, take your own wrench with you. I stand by the car and hand them the
wrench when it comes time to replace the lugs. (if they say I can't stay in
the shop with my car, then I don't use that shop.) I also explain about left
hand lugs. Otherwise, I can only hope I have a 10' pipe in the trunk to put
on the end of the wrench and hop up and down on it if I need to change a
tire. Being a shortie, I can probably get away with it better than you big
guys. Being female helps too. They can patronize me all they want, as long
as they do what I tell them.
Gloria Moon
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:25:33 -0600
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: '61 radio faceplate...; 60 300F fender trim
I agree that only the 1960 New Yorkers had the trim on top of the front
fenders. It sounds like someone got replacement fenders off of a New Yorker
and decided that they liked the trim.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hertog [mailto:crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Andy Mikonis; 'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'
Subject: [Chrysler300] '61 radio faceplate...; 60 300F fender trim
Andy, for years I have owned a 1961 clock with WHITE hashmarks. Could never
figure it out, at all, at all. Never seen nuthin' like it. Now you send
this Scud about a matching radio to my clock. Aaaaargh. This makes it even
worse ! Hopefully someone else will repond with something that makes sense
!
Frank, only 1960 NewYorkers, I do believe, had the front fender trim on top
of the fenders. Any you might have seen on a 300F was owner-added.
Similarly, and occasionally, I have seen 300F's or 300G's with NewYorker
side moldings, around the wheelwells, etc. ; that stuff never came from the
factory that way. It perhaps COULD have been dealer added at customer's
request - lots of strange things went on back then !
John
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:18:31 +1300
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Ross Roy Data Book, 1960
Hi folks,
Looking to buy a 1960 Chrysler data book. If you have one for sale, please contact me privately...............
Cheers f'now
Dave in New Zealand.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:06:21 -0600
From: "casa" <casa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: left is left
You guys talking about the left and right threads on the wheel hubs are causing me to get quite nostalgic. In the house I grew up in, left is left and right is right was very important. This was something my brother and I had to know. Dad gave him a 62 Dodge 880 (with factory floor shift) when he turned 16. Mine was a 62 Newport. Left is left and right is right was as ingrained in us as "never point the barrell at anything you don't plan to shoot." Cal and Sara (what else)62 300 sport
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:39:56 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Right hand, left hand.
Now the secert's out!
Now I know how being nice to you got me just what you wanted!!
Dumb ol' Ray in AR
> From: "G Moon" <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "G Moon" <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:32:49 -0500
> To: "'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
>
> When you must take your car to a shop where they remove and replace the
> lugs, take your own wrench with you. I stand by the car and hand them the
> wrench when it comes time to replace the lugs. (if they say I can't stay in
> the shop with my car, then I don't use that shop.) I also explain about left
> hand lugs. Otherwise, I can only hope I have a 10' pipe in the trunk to put
> on the end of the wrench and hop up and down on it if I need to change a
> tire. Being a shortie, I can probably get away with it better than you big
> guys. Being female helps too. They can patronize me all they want, as long
> as they do what I tell them.
>
> Gloria Moon
>
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:11:34 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Announcement
I am sorry for the misunderstanding on my comments on Celine. They were not about the ugly, they were about the music. However I did enjoy your list of artists, though probably would not have put Ms. Warwick there. However she is great as a Psychic Reader infomercial tout.
Incidentally I am not anti-woman in my choice of artists. Loved Patsy Cline.
I do agree with your comments of the music today that clutters up the airwaves. I am not certain why this is(unless the music is really as bad as it sounds) as I get older. I have a theory that just as you lose your ability to learn a new language as you age, perhaps our brain shuts down to many inputs of new experiences(however I do love riding the Harley that I have just acquired and learned to ride and gotten a license at age 62) and perhaps your brain just cannot understand and interpret this noise that you hear as music that you are suppose to enjoy and it just remains noise just as the words from a new language that you are exposed to remains so.
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From: Mark Souders
To: 'SADuggan@xxxxxxx' ; CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] DaimlerChrysler Announcement
Sean,
This announcement sure generated a lot of response! First I must say: I can
respect everyone's opinion on the subject. About the 20 years thing,
that's the exact same thing they said about Elvis, the Beatles, the Rolling
Stones, the Drifters, Dion Warwick, Waylon Jennings, Jr., Ricky Scaggs, and
the list goes on. All of those guys are much uglier than Celine, and some
are uglier than Richardo, but I don't think it's all about beauty or looks.
I'm not saying I love all of Celine Dion's music but most of it is at least
enjoyable. Her music is a lot better than some of that wanna-be music I
hear cluttering up today's airways. I'm 48 years old and like listening to
the oldies. Celine may not be the most beautiful woman in celebrity status
but as stated earlier, she's an icon and, to some extent, an idol to today's
youth, boomers, yuppies, and soccer moms, all a potential Chrysler market.
I must say, not many celebrities can remove themselves from the limelight
for an extended time and then come back and be better and more popular as
Celine Dion did. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can do what she did
and succeed. I don't think it's as much about looks (lord knows some of
today's Mopars are uglier than the Edsel!) as it is about reaching a varied
and diverse market. Celine's impact is yet to be seen but it might surprise
all of us. We'll have to wait and see.
In conclusion, I think the big D needs to do something to compete with all
those ads we're bombarded with from GM, Ford, Toyota, Lexus, Mitsubishi,
etc. Anything is better than nothing. When I was a teenager, I remember the
TV commercials for the Dodge Boys, the Road Runner, the Rapid Transit
System, etc. and they had an impact on me to the point of craving anything
Mopar. When it was time for me to buy my first car, it could only be a
Dodge. I refused to even look at anything else. It turned out to be a 61
Polara, but it was a Dodge! I was the proudest kid in the neighborhood and
nobody messed with my 361 except the rich kid with the new Challenger.
Those days are long gone but the initial impact lives on. I'll be a Mopar
man forever because of those TV commercials.
Good luck to DaimlerChrysler,
Mark
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> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:20 PM
> To: CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fwd: [Chrysler300] DaimlerChrysler Announcement
>
> Hi all,
> My two cents, Who is Celine Dion going to appeal to? I don't want to
> offend
> anyone, but in twenty years she is going to be completely forgotten about.
> I
> heard mention of Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash, two people with true
> talent,
> who won't be forgotten. Celine should sell alot of Chryslers to 30
> something
> single women with their clocks ticking, I guess Chrysler thinks thats a
> demographic worth shooting for.
>
> On a more positive note, I do think Chrysler is making good spokesperson
> decisions with the P.T. cruiser. They hired one of my freelance employees
> as
> the spokesperson. He's a great guy and this contract is really going to
> help
> him and his family. He really deserved the break and as with 95% of the
> actors in L.A. he was broke.
>
> Sean Duggan
> Los Angeles
>
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:49:17 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Right hand, left hand.
Sounds like your appliance repairman put his 400 pound air wrench on your dart. 400 pounds will probably not allow your car out of the shop as your lugs will either all be broken, stripped or stretched. So you are correct in a sense as your wheels will not be coming off going down the street, they will come off backing off the rack.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Souders
To: 'Tony Rinaldi' ; Marshall Larson ; 'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
Maaaaannnnnn !!!!!!
Just when I thought I understood this mess, somebody throws in that lefty
loosy thing.
All kidding aside, I've had about 25 Mopars 61 thru 74, over the years and
I've never had one with the left hand studs on the right side. I did,
however, have a broken stud on my 69 Dart because a "long-time" Mopar
mechanic forgot about the left hand lugs when he rebuilt the rear end. And
that was just this past spring!
Also, when you take your car to the shop and they put 400 foot pounds of
torque on those lugs, it doesn't matter if they're left or right handed or
cross-threaded, those wheels aren't coming off.
Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Rinaldi [SMTP:awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: Marshall Larson; Chrysler 300 Club
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
>
> Geez,
>
> You guys are confusing my son. He is still working on ³Righty tighty,
> lefty
> loosy². Better keep him away from my lug nuts. Well he does have a 50%
> chance of getting it right any way.
>
> Tony
>
> Ps Kidding aside, all of the studs have been changed on my ³60 to righty
> tighty, lefty loosy over the years.
> >
> > From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:50:23 -0600
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] Right hand, left hand.
> >
>
> > The tightening action occurs under braking. Most cars on the road
> cannot
> > spin their wheels on dry pavement but the spinning wheel assembly can be
> > stopped in less than two seconds no matter what the speed. The rotating
> > lug nuts want to continue to rotate, thus tightening may take place.
> > This is the reason most trucks use right and left lug nuts. When a
> wheel
> > assembly leaves a moving truck it can easily become a lethal weapon.
> >
> > Marshall
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:58:18 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DaimlerChrysler Announcement
I think it's the resistance to change that makes us more discriminatory when
it comes to musical taste. I remember when I was in high school in the
early 70s, my brother, sister and I would listen to what was then rock and
roll. My dad would say "turn that down! How can you listen to that stuff
?" When my kids were teenagers, I said the same thing to them in the early
90s. Now I hear the junk on the radio and think "my grandchildren will be
listening to this noise !"
Along those same lines, last weekend my wife and I were riding along when a
kid in a Honda pulled up beside us at a traffic light. This car was slammed
down to the ground, had one of those fart pipe exhausts and sounded like a
tin can full of pissed off bumble bees. We looked at each other and laughed
but then it hit me. This kid has done the same thing to his car that we did
in the 70s: personalized his ride. When I was young the coolest car trick
was to jack up the rear end with air shocks and put a pair of glass packs
on. Of course, there will never be anything as neat as the sound of a big
V8 with loud pipes. But today the youth have a completely different array
of vehicles to choose from. Since there is nothing out there that compares
to Cuda's, Road Runners, Super Bee's, they have to choose from Hondas,
Toyotas, Nissans, etc. They're relatively cheap and plentiful, and plenty
of aftermarket things to trick them out.
So, my point is, there will always be change. When we were younger, change
was more easily tolerated. Now that we're older, that tolerance is
diminishing, and that's a natural thing.
Happy motoring,
Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obiwan10 [SMTP:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:12 AM
> To: SADuggan@xxxxxxx; CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mark Souders
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] DaimlerChrysler Announcement
>
> I am sorry for the misunderstanding on my comments on Celine. They were
> not about the ugly, they were about the music. However I did enjoy your
> list of artists, though probably would not have put Ms. Warwick there.
> However she is great as a Psychic Reader infomercial tout.
>
> Incidentally I am not anti-woman in my choice of artists. Loved Patsy
> Cline.
>
> I do agree with your comments of the music today that clutters up the
> airwaves. I am not certain why this is(unless the music is really as bad
> as it sounds) as I get older. I have a theory that just as you lose your
> ability to learn a new language as you age, perhaps our brain shuts down
> to many inputs of new experiences(however I do love riding the Harley that
> I have just acquired and learned to ride and gotten a license at age 62)
> and perhaps your brain just cannot understand and interpret this noise
> that you hear as music that you are suppose to enjoy and it just remains
> noise just as the words from a new language that you are exposed to
> remains so.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Souders <mailto:souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'SADuggan@xxxxxxx' <mailto:'SADuggan@xxxxxxx'> ;
> CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] DaimlerChrysler Announcement
>
> Sean,
> This announcement sure generated a lot of response! First I must
> say: I can
> respect everyone's opinion on the subject. About the 20 years
> thing,
> that's the exact same thing they said about Elvis, the Beatles, the
> Rolling
> Stones, the Drifters, Dion Warwick, Waylon Jennings, Jr., Ricky
> Scaggs, and
> the list goes on. All of those guys are much uglier than Celine,
> and some
> are uglier than Richardo, but I don't think it's all about beauty
> or looks.
> I'm not saying I love all of Celine Dion's music but most of it is
> at least
> enjoyable. Her music is a lot better than some of that wanna-be
> music I
> hear cluttering up today's airways. I'm 48 years old and like
> listening to
> the oldies. Celine may not be the most beautiful woman in
> celebrity status
> but as stated earlier, she's an icon and, to some extent, an idol to
> today's
> youth, boomers, yuppies, and soccer moms, all a potential Chrysler
> market.
> I must say, not many celebrities can remove themselves from the
> limelight
> for an extended time and then come back and be better and more
> popular as
> Celine Dion did. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can do what
> she did
> and succeed. I don't think it's as much about looks (lord knows
> some of
> today's Mopars are uglier than the Edsel!) as it is about reaching a
> varied
> and diverse market. Celine's impact is yet to be seen but it might
> surprise
> all of us. We'll have to wait and see.
>
> In conclusion, I think the big D needs to do something to compete
> with all
> those ads we're bombarded with from GM, Ford, Toyota, Lexus,
> Mitsubishi,
> etc. Anything is better than nothing. When I was a teenager, I
> remember the
> TV commercials for the Dodge Boys, the Road Runner, the Rapid
> Transit
> System, etc. and they had an impact on me to the point of craving
> anything
> Mopar. When it was time for me to buy my first car, it could only
> be a
> Dodge. I refused to even look at anything else. It turned out to
> be a 61
> Polara, but it was a Dodge! I was the proudest kid in the
> neighborhood and
> nobody messed with my 361 except the rich kid with the new
> Challenger.
> Those days are long gone but the initial impact lives on. I'll be a
> Mopar
> man forever because of those TV commercials.
>
> Good luck to DaimlerChrysler,
> Mark
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx [SMTP:SADuggan@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:20 PM
> > To: CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Fwd: [Chrysler300] DaimlerChrysler Announcement
> >
> > Hi all,
> > My two cents, Who is Celine Dion going to appeal to? I don't want
> to
> > offend
> > anyone, but in twenty years she is going to be completely
> forgotten about.
> > I
> > heard mention of Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash, two people with
> true
> > talent,
> > who won't be forgotten. Celine should sell alot of Chryslers to 30
> > something
> > single women with their clocks ticking, I guess Chrysler thinks
> thats a
> > demographic worth shooting for.
> >
> > On a more positive note, I do think Chrysler is making good
> spokesperson
> > decisions with the P.T. cruiser. They hired one of my freelance
> employees
> > as
> > the spokesperson. He's a great guy and this contract is really
> going to
> > help
> > him and his family. He really deserved the break and as with 95%
> of the
> > actors in L.A. he was broke.
> >
> > Sean Duggan
> > Los Angeles
> >
> >
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:33 EST
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
Subject: 300F Chrome
<PRE>I agree with Hertog about the chrome doodads on the front fenders and about
the stainless wheel-well mouldings. But what about the little stainless
anti-stone things at the leading edge of the real wheel cutouts in the real
quarter panels? I've seen a LOT of F's with these (my current F has them),
and I can't find them in any of the old literature.
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:38:00 EST
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
Subject: 300N
<PRE>My daughter (who is in the automotive business) attended the advanced
Chrysler dealer's meeting in Las Vegas last week, and saw the new 300N. She
claims that Chrysler called it the "300C'. Also she said that Chrysler had a
300F on display for the meeting. Does anybody know anything about this?
McTaggart
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:07:47 -0500
From: "Hannon, John MAJ" <JHannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 300N
According to "AutoWeek" magazine from two months ago it WILL BE
TITLED THE 'N' and it's supposed to be Rear Wheel drive again. Rumor has it
they want that new Hemi in it eventually too. I sure hope the pump up the
"family resemblence" to the Real 300's.
JH
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From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx [mailto:pennsy300@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:38 AM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300N
<PRE>My daughter (who is in the automotive business) attended the advanced
Chrysler dealer's meeting in Las Vegas last week, and saw the new 300N. She
claims that Chrysler called it the "300C'. Also she said that Chrysler had
a
300F on display for the meeting. Does anybody know anything about this?
McTaggart
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:17:00 EST
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300F Chrome
Hi all:
My F was original when I purchased it and it had the stone guards on it. I
took them off and shelved them as I think they look tacky.
Dan Reitz
Northridge, CA
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