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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Ball and trunnion conversion
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
2. Re: sway bars
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
3. Re: Re: sway bars
From: "langendorfer" <langendorfer@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Re: sway bars
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. '55-'56 Coil Bracket
From: jrcote56@xxxxxxx
6. more sway bars
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
7. more sway bars
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:32:31 EST
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
Subject: Ball and trunnion conversion
Hey Everyone,
An update on the U-joint conversation. I had a vibration in my 62
while
driving so after checking other things I figured it was the driveshaft.
The
ball and trunnion joint had some play in it and the rear u-joint was
pretty
stiff. I bounced around on whether to fix the old joint or convert it to a
new system. So I took the shaft off and brought it down to the driveshaft
shop here in L.A. Talking to the guys at the driveshaft shop, they
convinced
me to convert it. They had one sitting there they had done the day before.
It
looked like a more reliable piece than my trunnion joint, and even with
fixing the trunnion joint I worry about wear in the housing.
When they convert the driveshaft, the shaft is cut about 6 to 8 inches
behind the ball and trunnion joint. The male end of a slip spline (I think
that's what they called it) Is welded onto the existing driveshaft. A
female
end of the slip spline, which has a yoke on one end, is slid over the male
end. A U-joint connects the driveshaft to another yoke which is mounted on
a
plate, that has the same diameter and bolt pattern as the trunnion
housing.
It's fairly straightforward and it seems to be a lot stronger than the old
joint. If anybody wants to see pictures, Just E-mail me.
This conversion seemed like the right thing to do, but after
installing
the driveshaft the vibration was still there. It was better but it was
still
there.
To make a long story short, a little arcing of the front brake shoes
caused
the vibration to go away. At least I won't have to worry about my drive
shaft
for a while, and when I shift between drive and reverse there's no
clanking
sound anymore.
I think I've rambled enough,
See ya,
Sean
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:16:03 -0700 (MST)
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: sway bars
all;
a few months ago there was a discussion about sway bars and
there was someone who had a really heavy duty sway bar made for a 64 k
and id very much like to find out who and where as i need one for my k,
which is in the process of being put back on the street after too many
years of sitting and it needs a sway bar due to some genius, in years
past, who saw fit to remove it, brackets are there but the bar is
missing. help, please with finding the supplier..
JEFF
tucson az.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:07:18 -0500
From: "langendorfer" <langendorfer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: sway bars
Try John Carlson at Saner Performance Fabricators in Port St. Lucie FL:
561-708-8977
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx <mr-320@xxxxxxxxx>
To: SADuggan@xxxxxxx <SADuggan@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: sway bars
> all;
> a few months ago there was a discussion about sway bars and
>there was someone who had a really heavy duty sway bar made for a 64 k
>and id very much like to find out who and where as i need one for my k,
>which is in the process of being put back on the street after too many
>years of sitting and it needs a sway bar due to some genius, in years
>past, who saw fit to remove it, brackets are there but the bar is
>missing. help, please with finding the supplier..
>
>
> JEFF
> tucson az.
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:57:06 -0800
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: sway bars
Sway Bars for 1964 300K and other applications are available from:
Quickor Suspension - web: www.quickor.com
Quickor Suspension is located in Portland, OR . Phone 503-654-2175.
17325 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Portland, OR 97267
They have been manufacturing suspension components since 1972. They make
rear sway bars for our 300's, for those who would like to add one.
If you contact them by telephone, ask for Mike Bynum. Mike has a 1964 300
Convertible and is their Chrysler expert.
Quickor makes "polyurethane Bushings". Quickor claims to be the first in
the
industry to use Urethanes bushings.
For those of you who will be attending the Portland Swap Meet, April 5, 6,
and 7, 2002, Quickor will have a booth there. C.Glen Rissberger, President
of Quickor usually is in the booth.
John Chesnutt, Portland, OR. 300C
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From: <mr-320@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <SADuggan@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <CHRYSLER300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: sway bars
> all;
> a few months ago there was a discussion about sway bars and
> there was someone who had a really heavy duty sway bar made for a 64 k
> and id very much like to find out who and where as i need one for my k,
> which is in the process of being put back on the street after too many
> years of sitting and it needs a sway bar due to some genius, in years
> past, who saw fit to remove it, brackets are there but the bar is
> missing. help, please with finding the supplier..
>
>
> JEFF
> tucson az.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:29:26 EST
From: jrcote56@xxxxxxx
Subject: '55-'56 Coil Bracket
Hi all,
Needing the coil mounting bracket on the intake manifold from a '55 or '56
dual 4 barrel .
This is not the bracket around the coil. It is the bracket to which the
coil
bracket bolts onto. Looks kind of like a bridge that is bolted with the
intake maniford bolts (2 bolts) on the middle right side center (passenger
side) of the engine. Part number is 1637543.
Thanks,
John
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:43:51 EST
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
Subject: more sway bars
In a message dated 3/11/02 12:37:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mr-320@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> mike;
> john hertog tells me that it was you who got the dynamite sway
> bar from [if memory serves] some outfit in fla.. i have a 300-k ram car
> that will soon be back on the street with a 500 inch, edelbrock headed
> motor ive built; and id surely like it to handle nicely when it hits the
> street! if i remember correctly, they made a really stout sway bar for
> you and would be happy to reproduce it for others. did it come with ALL
> the hardware and brackets necessary to install it and did it fit the
> stock brackets nicely? my car has the brackets but it seems that some
> genius, in years past, saw fit to remove the bar itself.. though, from
> your description, i think id prefer the aftermarket one anyway.
> if you would be so kind as to supply me with any contact
> information, including the person to talk to, id appreciate it quite a
> bit.
> thank you very much!!
>
> JEFF
> tucson az.
>
>
Jeff
John Carlson is the same guy who used to do research and
development
for Addco Industries in Florida. They were the premier aftermarket
supplier
for conversion and factory replacement anti-sway bars for a long time.
John did the front and rear bars for my K while he was still with
Addco. I had lost track of him after he left that outfit but it appears,
luckily, and thanks to Keith for letting us know, he's still in the
business
of building bars.
Anyway, it's 1-1/4 " in diameter and hangs off of the original
frame
brackets. I sent him my original bar and measurements and video of the
underside of the car and the bar fits like a glove. It would be difficult
to
go much larger ( although I'd have loved to ) due to clearance problems
between the bar and the strut rods which it attaches to. Of course an
entirely new bar could be designed to allow for that and perhaps attach to
the lower control arm directly but then it would look very non-original (
not
a bad idea though if it works better )
If you order a bar have them send you a few different sized bolts
which
are used to attach the "D" shaped frame bracket & bushing assembly to the
vehicle. I think I used a 3-1/2 " one. Too long and your bar will
interfere
with the oil filter and too short and you may hit the harmonic balancer.
I think you'll be pleased with the 1-1/4 inch unit. If you ever
come
up with a way to fit larger torsion bars please let me know. The K takes (
i
think ) a 40" long bar. Later model B-bodies take a 41" piece and these
are
readily available in almost any spring rate. I had thought to mill 0.50
off
each end and use one in my K but then discovered that the hex ends on the
B
bars are 0.125 narrower... too bad. Increasing spring rates plus the
larger
sway bars on my Charger made a world of difference. That plus 8" wide
wheels
and 50 series tires, and heavier rearched leaf springs with lowering
blocks,
and, and, and that's a whole other project.
Good luck
Mike Laiserin
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:46:39 EST
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
Subject: more sway bars
In a message dated 3/11/02 12:37:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mr-320@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> mike;
> john hertog tells me that it was you who got the dynamite sway
> bar from [if memory serves] some outfit in fla.. i have a 300-k ram car
> that will soon be back on the street with a 500 inch, edelbrock headed
> motor ive built; and id surely like it to handle nicely when it hits the
> street! if i remember correctly, they made a really stout sway bar for
> you and would be happy to reproduce it for others. did it come with ALL
> the hardware and brackets necessary to install it and did it fit the
> stock brackets nicely? my car has the brackets but it seems that some
> genius, in years past, saw fit to remove the bar itself.. though, from
> your description, i think id prefer the aftermarket one anyway.
> if you would be so kind as to supply me with any contact
> information, including the person to talk to, id appreciate it quite a
> bit.
> thank you very much!!
>
> JEFF
> tucson az.
>
>
Jeff
John Carlson is the same guy who used to do research and
development
for Addco Industries in Florida. They were the premier aftermarket
supplier
for conversion and factory replacement anti-sway bars for a long time.
John did the front and rear bars for my K while he was still with
Addco. I had lost track of him after he left that outfit but it appears,
luckily, and thanks to Keith for letting us know, he's still in the
business
of building bars.
Anyway, it's 1-1/4 " in diameter and hangs off of the original
frame
brackets. I sent him my original bar and measurements and video of the
underside of the car and the bar fits like a glove. It would be difficult
to
go much larger ( although I'd have loved to ) due to clearance problems
between the bar and the strut rods which it attaches to. Of course an
entirely new bar could be designed to allow for that and perhaps attach to
the lower control arm directly but then it would look very non-original (
not
a bad idea though if it works better )
If you order a bar have them send you a few different sized bolts
which
are used to attach the "D" shaped frame bracket & bushing assembly to the
vehicle. I think I used a 3-1/2 " one. Too long and your bar will
interfere
with the oil filter and too short and you may hit the harmonic balancer.
I think you'll be pleased with the 1-1/4 inch unit. If you ever
come
up with a way to fit larger torsion bars please let me know. The K takes (
i
think ) a 40" long bar. Later model B-bodies take a 41" piece and these
are
readily available in almost any spring rate. I had thought to mill 0.50
off
each end and use one in my K but then discovered that the hex ends on the
B
bars are 0.125 narrower... too bad. Increasing spring rates plus the
larger
sway bars on my Charger made a world of difference. That plus 8" wide
wheels
and 50 series tires, and heavier rearched leaf springs with lowering
blocks,
and, and, and that's a whole other project.
Good luck
Mike Laiserin
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