Last year, I think offline from the listserver, we did some paint comparisons based on input from David Frank. Long story short, two issues came up: 1) the Hirsch Chrysler Turq paint appears to be more "green" in recent stock than it did 6+ years ago. It is actually "too green" for a good match. It also isn't available anymore in rattle cans, but rather only in quarts. In quarts the paint is very thick - you have to thin to spray - but you can brush it as well. It will brush out nicely. 2) We couldn't get a good match to factory original parts with ANY of the currently available Chrysler Turq paints. To Kurt - I can't recall if we tried the Alpine Green.
Conclusions: The original recommended match, back in the day, was the Plastikote Chrysler Turq, which is no longer available. Believe it or not, we found the best match with 1957-58 Pontiac Turquoise from Bill Hirsch. It makes no sense, but multiple eyeballs confirmed this. At the Omaha meet, I gave the samples to Mark Obermann, and he compared them to the Turq engine paint reference sample from Chrysler used for judging - which has been closely guarded all these years in the executive washroom at Funk & Wagnalls. Mark agreed - Pontiac Turq was the best match (not perfect, but the closest).
What is the difference pre-65 Turquoise vs. post-65? I have compared original Turq engine parts from my stock both pre-65 and post-65 and they are identical.
Here is a photo attached showing sample comparisons against a factory original part and valve covers painted with the old Plastikote Turq.
We are splitting hairs and over thinking this topic, but since it resurfaced, this is what we found.
Carl B.
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From: "kurt brueske" <kurt.brueske@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club International" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2025 8:42:24 PM
Subject: {Chrysler 300} Re: Pre 65 turquoise engine paint
I’m very happy with the color match of Duplicolor “Detroit Diesel/Alpine
Green” you can get at NAPA and elsewhere. Here is a picture of the spray
can top and original bolt off my ‘64 Imperial. It lays out wonderfully,
drys quick and the finish is super durable as I believe the chemistry
includes ceramics.
On Thursday, April 10, 2025 at 7:52:29 PM UTC-5 apozdol wrote:
> Well, starting another early turquoise engine paint thread.
> Lost my head gaskets and reverse, so out comes the motor and trans for a
> rebuild after 93K and sitting indoors for 40 years.
>
> I have recently tried three different turquoise engine paints, none of
> these are really for the pre 65 engines.
>
> A fellow tells on one of the MOPAR Forum posts that he had years of - back
> in the day - painting experience and that the early MOPAR, pre 1965
> turquoise was a visible match in all lighting to the 1962 Chrysler Bermuda
> Turquoise pictured in the attached picture.
>
> He also stated that he was told by a MOPAR engineer that the factory used
> acrylic enamel on the engines in the '60's. Can anyone confirm this?
>
> The original paint on my engine seems burned in (acrylic enamel?) and
> sludge stained, now more a dark greenish shade of turquoise. And not
> matching the newer, blueish tints.
>
> I do remember as a very young lad a bit surprised that the engine in my
> uncle's 1963 Chrysler station wagon (displacement unknown) had a brighter
> than normal engine color very close to this, not the blueish colors sold
> today for MOPAR turquoise. I joked with my Dad as to why anybody would
> paint an engine baby blue! To my eye then.
>
> I see many state on the MOPAR Forums that the now obsolete MOPAR engine
> paint PH4120752 was a match to the early shade. Has anyone used this paint
> in the past?
>
> Nobody is happy with the current offerings for pre 65 colors which all
> claim matches "MOPAR turquoise". None of them match each other!
>
>
> Allan
>
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