Re: Re[4]: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier
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Re: Re[4]: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier



I have been lucky, but there is difficulty in finding all the parts I need. I have made contacts with NOS and NORS vendors. I received a business card from an ebay seller, best contact yet.. even had parts for an old Dodge Gyro-torque transmission. Another project I regret taking on. I have bought many things through the Forward Look vendors.  Machine shops going out of business. Sometimes Hammer and Chisel Willy gets things done if you have enough time.

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From: Carl Bilter <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:40:07 AM
To: RICK AND DEBBIE CLAPHAM <rixpac@xxxxxxx>; Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>; chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re[4]: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier
 
Yes, strongly agree, but easier said than done.  Rick, perhaps you or others can enlighten us as to what brands/where we can find brake parts for our letter cars (in particular mstr cyl and wheel cyls) not made in China?  Every brand I have looked at it the last year is Chinese made.  I understand that the old parts can be rebuilt.  I'm asking aboit new parts.  

Carl


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To "Carl Bilter" <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx>; "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date 6/1/2024 8:14:58 AM
Subject Re: Re[2]: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier

I have had issues with Chinese manufactured parts. I prefer to avoid them all. I no longer install customer supplied parts, being in the end I bear the responsibility. Shopkeeper insurance doesn't cover like it used to, no protection from lawsuits.

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Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 6:59:24 AM
To: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>; chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re[2]: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier
 
Yes, some of the Chinese made parts seem fine and dandy - at least for awhile.  I agree that the part is only as good as the specs to which it is manufactured and the QC.  My anecdotal experience has been thst, irrespective of major name brand, while initial quality seems ok, the longevity and reliability has not been up to the standards of USA made parts of yesteryear, specifically with brake master cylinders.  I have had good results with wheel cylinders, providing that DOT5 silicone is used.  Buying locally, such as at NAPA or chain parts stores, offers the ease of return of a defective part for free repalcement, albeit at a higher initial cost.  Returning a part to Rock Auito is a PITA and the buyer bears the expense of return shipping.  That said, premature failure of parts gets old really fast.

Carl


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From "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date 5/31/2024 11:28:17 PM
Subject RE: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier

It should be noted that just because a part is made in China doesn’t mean that it’s automatically bad. Most of what we buy now, no matter how ‘American’ the name, is made in China. The US Military has vendors based in China. The difference is quality control. I’d like to believe that well-known brands, like Raybestos or Centric, do frequent quality control checks, or have their own inspectors on-site. The problem arises when no-name parts are purchased from suppliers like Kanters. They just buy the cheapest parts and resell at a substantial markup. Then it becomes a real crap shoot.

 

Ron

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Carl Bilter
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 11:08 PM
To: Kurt Brueske <kurt.brueske@xxxxxxxxx>; chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier

 

Hi Kurt,

 

Rock Auto should have what you need.  Ok to mix brands.  NAPA parts are just private labeled versions of the same parts at twice or more the cost.  10 or more years ago many of these parts were still made in the USA (or maybe Mexico), but now even previously high quality brands like Raybestos are almost all Chinese (maybe a little still from Mexico).  Centric brake parts have been Chinese made for 20+ years.  Also the fittings are now all metric - wheel cylinders, master, etc.  The cap on the master cylinder should be secured with a 7/16" hex head bolt - nope - now you'll find 10mm.  Just went thorugh this discovery last fall on my G.  Stongly advise utilization of silicone (DOT5), discussed and debated often on this list server.  But even with DOT5, expect a Chinese made master cylinder to start leaking brake fluid anywhere from 6 mos. to 3 years after installation.  USA made masters installed 20+ years ago with DOT5 = zero leaks.  Just the sad state of affairs these days.  

 

Carl

 

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From "Kurt Brueske" <kurt.brueske@xxxxxxxxx>

To "Chrysler 300 Club International" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date 5/31/2024 3:17:35 PM

Subject {Chrysler 300} Brake component/kit supplier

 

Dear Club Members -

 

I'm would appreciate any/all recommendations on good brake part suppliers for our beloved Letter Cars including period Imperials.  I've had generally good experiences with Rock Auto (good parts, reasonable prices, excellent communication/order completion/prompt shipping), and I see that they offer individual components and hardware kits - ideally, I'd like to go to a single provider to support a general overhaul.  I recently purchased a '64 Imperial Crown Coupe and it is a wonderful driver (after about 6 months of sorting); however, anything requiring a moderate-effort stop gets downright scary...pulsing, a bit of pull, and some time-to-time variability.  Car sat for 20+ years before recommissioning.

 

Thanks in advance - have a great weekend!

 

Kurt

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