Re: [Chrysler300] C-300 & 300B Carb questions

[lettercars@xxxxxxx]

Rich, Bob, and All:
Thanks (I think!) Rich, for bringing this up.  I thought I would look  at 
the AMA specs and just be able to write the WCFB 2318S off as a typo or  
something.  But noooo, it is very specifically stated, as revised on  2/15/55 to 
include the C300: "(a) Front-WCFB 2318S; Rear-WCFB 2317S".  What  can I 
say?  At the time of revision, one would  think the reviser  was given two 
different numbers, or it seems  like they would have just typed in a single WCFB 
number and said something like  "2 required" or "front and rear".  Or would 
they?  Obviously we will  never know.  Rich has mentioned he has no 
evidence that Carter ever made a  "2318" carb, and neither do I.  Since later data 
from Carter themselves,  and Chrysler too, indicate both C300 Carbs were of 
the WCFB 2317S species, I  think that is how we should show it in our web 
site.  
 
A comment on the 300B carbs.  As Rich states, the Chrysler parts book  
shows the 300B using both the C300 Carbs, and also those ordinarily assigned to  
it, the WCFB 2444S and 2445S.  In this case, there was a change in the AMA  
specs, dated 2/4/56.  I can see something was erased, but cannot tell  
what.  This was only a month after the press release announcing the 300B on  
January 4th.  My point is, that it might take that long to get a change  into 
the AMA specs that actually occurred quite a bit earlier.  We will  never 
know for sure that very early 300Bs used C300 carbs unless that completely  
unmolested example turns up.
 
By the way, that press release stated the first public showing of the new  
300B would be at the Chicago Auto Show, January 6--15, 1956.   
 
300ly, Gil Cunningham
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 6:46:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
c300@xxxxxxx writes:

Thanks  to the creator(s) and publishers of the new information.

Below is the  entry for 1955 C-300's from that just-published Letter Car
Carburetor  Summary:

Year Carb

1955 Carter WCFB 2318S (front), 2317S (rear)  

This posting is a request for information on the 2318S carb.

My  C-300 (VIN 3N551198, engine s/n 3NE1098-produced 3/12/55) has its
original  engine that has two 2317S carbs, each has its little brass tag
intact with  different stampings and punchouts below the clearly stamped
2317S.   The carbs appear identical with the exception that the front carb
has a  dashpot attached to the left front carb stud.  Perhaps that was  the
original difference???

My 1955 Chrysler Service Manual refers to  "Twin Carter WCFB-2317S four
barrel carburetors..."

My 1955-58  Chrysler Passenger Car Parts Manual only shows the 2317S on F&R
'55  C-68-300, also '56 300B C72-300 F&R and '56 DeSoto Adventurer  S-24.
Different carb numbers are also shown for the 300B and  Adventurer,
suggesting a mid-production year change.  None show a  dashpot part number.
Feedback from other owners of C-300's as to presence  of a dashpot on the
front carb appreciated.

I have a CD with Carter  WCFB data and it shows parts for 2317S, 2444S and
2445S carbs.  No  reference to a 2318S.  This on a form dated April, 1955 
and
updated  Feb. '58 that does not show the dashpot as a Carter part.  

I also  have a Carter General Bulletin #53 dated June 8, 1955 that states
"The 1955  Chrysler Model C-300 is equipped with two (2) WCFB, Model 2317S,
Carter  Carbureters (sic)."

I do recall seeing a reference to a 2318S carb, but  cannot dig it out.
Perhaps the AMA spec sheet?  So what is the "rest  of the story" on the 
2318S
carb?  Anyone ever seen one?  If they  exist, how do they differ from the
2317S?  The '56 300B 2314S carb  also seems to be a mystery carb as the 
parts
manual shows early models may  have been equipped with 2317S before being
switched to 2444S and  2445S.

I note the only difference between the 1956 300B front and rear  carbs 
(2444S
and 2445S) seems to be a difference in the Primary Metering  Rod Jets and
Metering Rod.  That seems a little strange to me, also,  since the carbs are
non-progressive.  Any info on reason for different  primary jets & rods 
front
to rear?

C-300'ly,
Rich  Barber
Brentwood, CA
1955 Chrysler C-300


-----Original  Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bob Merritt
Sent:  Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:01 AM
To: Chrysler300 list
Subject:  [Chrysler300] new this week

New this week to the web site:

300F  Convertible Disassembly June 24, 2009 

300G Coupe Disassembly June 24,  2009 

Letter Car Carburetor Summary June 24, 2009 

Lancaster, PA  Meet Report June 21, 2009 


You can also find this at the What's New  Page

http://www.chrysler300club.com/whatsnew/whatsnew.html

[Non-text  portions of this message have been  removed]



------------------------------------

To send a  message to this group, send an email  to:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

For list server instructions, go  to
http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm

For archives go  to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo!  Groups
Links









------------------------------------

To  send a message to this group, send an email  to:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

For list server instructions, go to  
http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm

For archives go to  http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups 
Links





**************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the 
grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

To send a message to this group, send an email to:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm

For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/