Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler Trivia

[Gary Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Back in 1960 Bill " Maverick"  Goulden and I were both racing are Dodge 
Darts with the Ram Induction 383's at the Lions Drag strip in So. CA. 
and we were vary rarely beat.   I was just super tuned on a chassis 
Dyno.  with 3:31 gears.  He had factory backing and 4: 10 Gears.  Thats 
why he always beat me.   But I had a lot of second place finishes.    
Gary Barker

langendorfer wrote:

>Folks,
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>Depends on one's definition of Muscle Car. Chadwick, Duesenberg J/SJ, Olds
>88, Hudson Hornet, Chrysler Letter Car, GTO?
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>In 1966 (as a freshman in High School), I wrote a letter to Motor Trend
>Magazine telling them that the hoopla concerning the 1964 GTO (small car,
>big motor, "first MuscleCar", so everyone said) was misplaced. I made a case
>for the '56 Golden Hawk, which I still feel strongly about IF you use the
>GTO's criteria .
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>Given that in 1956 the largest engine available was a 374 Packard, the ratio
>of 352 (the GH's Packard engine) to 374 was closer in size to "the biggest"
>than the GTO's 389 to the 430 Lincoln in 1964. Maybe that's why the first
>groundbreaking test of a 64' Goat was the C&D coupe that in reality had a
>Royal Pontiac blueprinted 421. The sad irony is that the same C&D issue had
>the article "Who Killed Studebaker".
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>So the debate will continue, as we all know. However, thanks to Bob Rodger
>and Virgil Exner and their lengthy focus from the C300 through the Sonoramic
>cars (and the heritage it created for the later cars, like my 300K 4 speed),
>the Letter Cars will always be in a class by themselves. None of the other
>4/5 passenger sedans I mentioned (or may have overlooked), have had as
>consistent a tenure of awe-inspiration.
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>Keith
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>To: <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
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>Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler Trivia
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>>In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:07:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>>Worse yet, the first muscle car might 'really' have been the GTO.
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>>Sorry but I miss the point.    I think a special model such as the "300"
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>>unique engine, badging and interior appointiments qualifies as the first
>>muscle car... I take exception to the thought that it started in 1961or
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>so....Hell
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>>we were burning rubber long before that....Anyother opinions?    Marv
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