Re: [Chrysler300] judging

["Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxx>]

Would anyone care to comment on whether wire wheels get dinged on a 300 B.

Some say yes, some say not(was dealer installed only, this was the case also
of some items such as hubcaps or radio antenna or floor mats--I do not know
if this is true or not--).

What about paint? Enamel verses one or two stage polyurhethanes or lacquer.

What of windows without factory bugs(emblems!!Corvette guys get you on this
as well as over restoring), factory overspray, proper mufflers and clamps,
hoses with factory part numbers and on and on.

I believe what I am asking, is if there is a rule book or judge's pamphlet
that covers all these details, or is it all subjective to the decision of
the judges at that particular meet.

Something that threw some of us off(one fellow had towed an incredible 300 C
some 400 miles) at the Jett Ranch meet was that you could not register for
Concour at the meet itself. This was not made totally clear that
registration for Concour could only be done at the time as the general
registration for the meet.

What purpose does this serve other then eliminate some potential Concour
cars from competing as happened at that meet. I myself thought that I had
read the general registration application closely and felt that I had the
option to register for the Concour upon arrival at the meet(my car was under
some major work at that time and was uncertain if it would be ready--as
incidentally was the 400 mile trip car--).

Of course we were both extremely disappointed at the ruling made upon
attempting to register at the meet. The Concour had an extremely small
turnout as most autos that showed up were put into street show and we know
the quality and accuracy of judging in these.

Incidentally the OTHER club does not have such a rule.

Roger Schaaf
300 B California

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Jones" <hurst300@xxxx>
To: "Ben Meisner" <meisnerinc@xxxx>; "Chrysler 300"
<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] judging


> Hi Ben;
> Jim Krausmann's response was right on the mark, but there's 1 other thing
> thats important, Attitude.
>
> A very wise long time member, Dudley Finneyfrock, explaned it to me. He
said
> that "He brought his car to be judged. He asked the judges to examine his
> car and tell him what was wrong or needed improvement". When they were
> finished, he'd thank them very much, take the judgeing sheet home and
leave
> it alone for a week or so. Then he's take the sheet and look at the items
> that lost points. If he agreed, he'd fix it. If he thought they were a
> little too critical, or wrong, he'd leave it alone. He never argued with
> the judges, after all, he asked. In this fashion, he created a consistant
> award winning 1970 300 Hurst, which is now on display in the Chrysler
> Museaum.
>
> By the way, the judges are busting their butts crawing around over and
under
> other peoples cars for hours , while everyone else is enjoying the day.
they
> get nothing other than lunch out of it. Give them a break, cars are
entered,
> they examine, owners should accept gracefully. NEVER ask a question if you
> don't want the answer.
>
> I encourage you to have any 300 Letter car you can bring to a meet, Judged
> at least once. That will give you a baseline to do your restoration from.
> Many do this and never have it judged again. They just enjoy.
>
> As far as peoples choice this is where the members judge the Letter cars
in
> attendance, in 4 classes, by year groups, and the most votes gets the
gold.
> No standards, just what the members liked. I sometimes vote for a driver
> over a well restored car, just because I think it's better to drive them a
> lot and enjoy them in their natural enviroment....on the road! But a well
> restored car is a sight to behold. I love them all.
>
> As far as "improvements" go, it's your car, do it "your way"!
>
> Hope to see you in Concours (just for the experiance), Ray
> -- 
> Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
>
> > From: Ben Meisner <meisnerinc@xxxx>
> > Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:48:57 -0800
> > To: Chrysler 300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] judging
> >
> > Hi Club;
> >
> > Forgive me for being a fool . Would someone in the club , preferably
judges
> > answer these questions.
> > (1) what does a concourse car , represent . how is it judged . what are
the
> > marks for each section. what forms the deductions for a 300 letter car.
> >
> > (2) What constitutes a peoples choice award . what are the judging
parameters
> > . again what are the deductions .
> >
> > (3) are there classes at the meets for people such as myself, who drive
our
> > cars as much as possible . Last year seven thousand miles after June
24th.
> > till October 30th ( winter in Canada )
> >
> > (A) I make as good an effort as possible at trying to make the car
original.
> > But when it comes for example to the clock. I convert it to Quartz to
ensure
> > that it will run into the next century . I have power coated my rims in
the
> > interest of making sure that they will never rust and will be around for
the
> > next hundred years even if it is driven. I have added new under coating
on the
> > under side to ensure that rust never ever gets on the floor pans .
similarly
> > on the interior . I have changed the bolts that have shown obvious rust
wear
> > to stainless steel again to ensure that they never are the cause of rust
. I
> > have power coated the supports for the bumper again to make sure they
never
> > will rust again. does all of this make my car a failure in the eyes of
judges
> > . I have the correct interior, motor , paint colors for air cleaners
etc. I
> > have tried as best as possible to build a car that will last well into
the
> > future , I believe in my heart it is far better then when it originally
> > rolled off the assembly line. I wonder aloud and I'm sure as do many
people
> > who belong to this list and are afraid to ask.
> >
> >
> > Thank you judges...
> >
> > Ben Meisner
> >
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