Re: [Chrysler300] VIN's an Body Plates

["Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxx>]

Law Enforcement View.....
Secondary vin locations are only checked during a stage 3 inspection if
required by DMV for some reason here in Montana. They indeed can show that a
vehicle is legit, but most states go by the vin plate itself and if it has
been removed, tampered with or missing you're in for a lot of grief. You
would be amazed how many people(both unwitting buyers and dumb thieves) do
not realize there are vin #s in more than one location on most vehicles for
decades.The secondary vin locations are great for catching thieves and for
documenting "matching #s" vehicles but for title and licensing purposes the
vin plate is what is used in all 50 states, PERIOD. Remember Buyer Beware!!
Joe Pierce
----- Original Message -----
From: "RON KURTZ" <Mark268@xxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxx>;
"Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] VIN's an Body Plates


> Hello, everyone:
>
> What about the serial number imprint on the frame? Can this help establish
> the authenticity of the vehicle?
>
> Regards,
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kelly Pierce <jkrestor300@xxxx>
> To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; PaddyCaddy . <paddycaddy@xxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] VIN's an Body Plates
>
>
> > Greetings Group!
> > As A Law Enforcement Officer I have to add my nickels worth on this
> > debate. Some states it is flat illegal to tamper w/ a vin or vin plate
in
> > any way! If it falls of due to age, rust, poor weld at the factory(we
have
> > all seen the aforementioned) Leave it alone and go to your M.V. dept and
> get
> > a vin inspection form and follow it's instructions. Here it is free to
> have
> > a vin insp. done by a Law Enforcement officer I don't know about other
> > states. It may affect the value of your car if the vin plate is loose
and
> > not attached but far lessthan having MV give the car an assigned vin.
And
> > yes we do catch people trying to clone cars, re-body etc. The stupidity
of
> > some thieves is exceeded only by their willingness to go to prison (and
> > greed, laziness etc) for this kind of activity.
> > In ALL CASES- LEAVE THE VIN PLATE ALONE!
> > Joe Pierce, Court Security and Transport Officer, Yellowstone
County
> > Sheriffs Office, Billings, Montana
> > P.S. Do yourself a favor and don't ask a Officer to verify something
> with
> > out your states' proper paper work for him to sign as it leaves him in a
> > liability situation if you don't!----- Original Message -----
> > From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxx>
> > To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:42 PM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] VIN's an Body Plates
> >
> >
> > > Having been in the old car businees for close to 2 decades now, I can
at
> > > least recommend the following....
> > >
> > > If at all possible, never screw with VIN plates - or even body plates
> > (much
> > > more common). No matter how exacting you are with your paint jobs !
> > >
> > > Selling a clone car with a shifty body plate might be overlooked by
most
> > law
> > > enforcement agencies - but a VIN with shifty looking rivets will get
you
> > > into far more trouble than it is worth. There are many old car nuts
in
> > the
> > > police department ! Believe it ! And with the internet thankfully
> > > providing them with all the information they need......well, I guess
> you
> > > get my point.
> > >
> > > Although I do not speak from experience, I have been approached by
> > countless
> > > folks who quite obviously have bought a "hot" car and ask me the very
> same
> > > questions (although they usually want to know where to find new door
and
> > > ignition tumblers at the same time...) !
> > >
> > > I am not accusing you - a fellow club member - of the same. I'm only
> > > warning you to be VERY CAREFUL if you want to pursue this detail in yo
ur
> > > restoration. Have you considered having a member of the law
> enforcement
> > > community inspect and photograph your car before you make such changes
> ???
> > >
> > > Sean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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