Good advice. Another thing to pass along is something I have done for years when starting an engine after extended storage.I use a clean, small fuel tank from an old lawn mower and a length of fuel line connected to the suction side of the fuel pump and plug the line from the vehicle tank to prevent spillage. This way no old gas or other gunk will foul the carbs. Then I mix a rather strong mix of gas and 2-cycle oil for the small tank and use that to try to start the engine. Besides having clean, fresh fuel, the 2-cycle oil provides extra lubrication on first startup and warmup for valve guides, rings, and maybe a little extra for the up side of the cylinders, since the oil you used before first tried to start probably only oiled the lower part of the bores. Another thing I do when pre-oiling with the plugs out is after squirting oil in each cylinder, insert a small hose attached to an air supply into the cylinder and let it flop around to distribute the oil. A shop rag held over the opening helps reduce the mess and you are more sure of even distribution. I have seen engines started dry that pushed the piston to the top, where it stuck and when the rod went down, it left the ring portion of the piston there and pulled the wrist-pin and skirt only and after a few trips up and down usually starts coming apart and leaving its mark in the bores, Since you have compression, you aren't there, but pulling to start puts more strain on everything than using the starter, where you can watch and listen for squeaks or sounds of binding up. If you advance the timing too far and are using the starter, you will know right away because it will kick back. Okie Bob JettLarry@xxxxxxx wrote: Tow/push starting any engine that has sat for a long time encourages stuck valve guides ( possibly the real reason the car will not start) to grab the valve stem and bend the stick causing no end of trouble. Before doing so, spend a day or so lubricating the valve stems with penetrating oil, Marvel Mystery oil, ATF or kerosene and then bang on the ends of the valves with something hard to be sure that the valve actually moves when asked to. The valve guides in my C300, restored years ago and now DC's, were so stuck to the valve stems after many years of non movement, that banging on two of the valves caused the guide to leave its hole with the stem still attached. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/6iY7fA/5WnJAA/Y3ZIAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/