bob is correct, i had forgotten and i stand corrected, the 65's for about half of the build year used the trunnion joint as they used up the stock of extra 4 speeds lying about. in fact, come to think of it, i heard of a large special priced order by several dealers out west here getting together and ordering a bunch of identical 4 speed cars and the 68 roadrunners came thru with trunnion joints, word was the factory found a whse. full of them and wanted to get rid of them. i also have seen 65's with trunnions and also 65's with slip joints.. chrysler also used borg warner 4 speeds for the first half of the first year the 4 speed was available,, 63 i believe.. JEFF tucson az. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Autos. Everything you need to know about buying or selling a car. FREE Quotes, 360° Tours, Research, Blue Book, Compare Vehicles, Buy Used http://us.click.yahoo.com/kEZsdA/bwnGAA/YiGOAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/