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There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: (unknown)
From: "Thomas Miller" <tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. rear main oil leak on 57C
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxx>
3. Tire balancing
From: Paul Martin <paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx>
4. Virus Alert
From: "Jess" <jdmiklas@xxxxxxx>
5. RE: Virus Alert
From: doug_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx
6. virus not from server
From: "rcm@a-znet" <rcmerritt@xxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: (unknown)
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Balance
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Tire balancing
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
10. G Brake Linings
From: Val Jeffers <edward1108@xxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: 'G' ball & trunion boot
From: "The Valentines" <300g@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. G Brake Linings - reply
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: 'G' ball & trunion boot
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
14. Virus alert
From: "Jerry" <mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: Virus alert
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:14:29 -0400
From: "Thomas Miller" <tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Hi Paul,
I too have the big Cokers on my 300C and they did indeed as everyone
else is noting take a fair amount of lead to balcance. My tire dealer
did balance on BOTH (front and back) sides of the rim and we didn't seem
to have to resort to tire weights that were HUGE!
The results are indeed impressive though. I've had the C around to
about 125 mph and it's smooth as silk!
As far as your installer and his woes with your particular setup, I'd
either go somewhere else or suggest that he break the problem tires off
of the bead, turn them 90 or 120 degrees, reseat and balance again.
Good luck.
Best Regards,
Thomas F. Miller
tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
614.975.4164 voice/page
707.667.2601 eFax
>>> Paul Martin <paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx> 08/12/02 07:35PM >>>
Has anyone who has purchased the Coker Classic
235-75-14 had any problems with balancing? I have been
back twice for rebalancing and the installer says the
tires are difficult to balabce because of their size
on a 14 inch rim. I believe he is making excuses but I
want to hear from others.
I had no problem with the Coker 225-75-14 that were on
my car when I bought it.
Paul
300F
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:48:07 -0700
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: rear main oil leak on 57C
Well, I must have screwed up hen I put this thing together. Considering it is my first time, I guess something had to go wrong. Anyway, I have a leak at the rear main. I've put dye in the oil to make sure I knew where the leak was. Coming out of the rear main around the crank. My question is, when I drop the pan, oil pump and rear main cap, is there a way to tell which half of the rear main seal is leaking? I'd rather not mess with the upper half if I don't have to. Any words of wisdom out there on what I'm getting myself into and an easy way to fix it?
Zak
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:16:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paul Martin <paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Tire balancing
From your reports it seems as though 4-5 oz is the
norm per tire. On the first go around the installer
only put weights on the inside to keep a "clean look
to the rims" On the second pass weights were put on
both sides. Two tires continued to be a problem and
one rim was suspect. We changed that tire over to the
spare rim and it took the same weight. Another tire
was rotated 180 and it did improve. I am going back to
another tire store that I know the people and they
will be a little more patient. What galled me was the
first store charged me the second time I went back
because "they didn't sell me the tires".
Thanks for all your input.
Paul
300F
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:54:01 -0400
From: "Jess" <jdmiklas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Virus Alert
Rec'd two e-mails thru listserver - from "C300C" and "slim" -
both with attachments dated 8-13-02. My Virus Scan says they are infected. Suggest delete w/o opening.
Jeff Miklas
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:52:42 -0600
From: doug_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Virus Alert
Hi list,
I am confused. The message at the bottom of every post to the list says 'non-text portions removed.' Then how could this person have opened an infected attachment that came through the list server??
Doug Jones
Just down the road from Jett Ranch
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From: Jess [mailto:jdmiklas@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Virus Alert
Rec'd two e-mails thru listserver - from "C300C" and "slim" -
both with attachments dated 8-13-02. My Virus Scan says they are infected. Suggest delete w/o opening.
Jeff Miklas
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:49:30 -0400
From: "rcm@a-znet" <rcmerritt@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: virus not from server
A clarification:
if you are receiving emails with virusssessus, they are not coming from the
Yahoo list server. Today seems to be an especially heavy day for
virusssessus -- the Norton program here has caught 14 today alone. But rest
assured, they are not transmitted through the Yahoo list server. I have just
re-checked the list server settings and archives -- no attachments are
allowed and no messages are archived with virussesssesssesus.
Some of these virusssessus capture your address book and use the list of
names therein to send their nasty bits.
Once again: if you have email, you owe it to yourself and you owe it to
others to have up to date virus protection. If I were King (which won't
happen until next week), I'd make it a law.
Bob Merritt
300 Club list server chief rodent
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:17:59 +0000
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Hi All;
Great advice, but first balance the rim. Over the years professonialy, I've
had many rime out of balance. Then add an out of balance tire and just
happen to get the imbalance with each other, you have a bigger problem. If
you mark the rim where it's heavist, you can play with relocating the tire
around the rim to cancel the rims imbalance.
Good luck, and see y'all in Nashville, Ray Jones
> From: "Thomas Miller" <tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:14:29 -0400
> To: <paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx>,<chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] (unknown)
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I too have the big Cokers on my 300C and they did indeed as everyone
> else is noting take a fair amount of lead to balcance. My tire dealer
> did balance on BOTH (front and back) sides of the rim and we didn't seem
> to have to resort to tire weights that were HUGE!
>
> The results are indeed impressive though. I've had the C around to
> about 125 mph and it's smooth as silk!
>
> As far as your installer and his woes with your particular setup, I'd
> either go somewhere else or suggest that he break the problem tires off
> of the bead, turn them 90 or 120 degrees, reseat and balance again.
> Good luck.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Thomas F. Miller
>
> tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 614.975.4164 voice/page
> 707.667.2601 eFax
>
>>>> Paul Martin <paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx> 08/12/02 07:35PM >>>
> Has anyone who has purchased the Coker Classic
> 235-75-14 had any problems with balancing? I have been
> back twice for rebalancing and the installer says the
> tires are difficult to balabce because of their size
> on a 14 inch rim. I believe he is making excuses but I
> want to hear from others.
> I had no problem with the Coker 225-75-14 that were on
> my car when I bought it.
> Paul
> 300F
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:28:57 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Balance
Single plane balance can be done on a bubble balancer with weights on one
side of the wheel. This procedure is still used today for alloy wheel
applications where clip on rim weights are unsightly. Stick on weights are
also used but are still unsightly. Static, single plane balancing is done
with computer balancers.
Dynamic wheel balancing uses two planes of reference. Wheels are weighted on
the edges of the rim to take compensate for static and rotating imbalance.
Paste on weights are also used.
With a Google search for "road force variation tire balance" the Hunter
site should pop up. I think this is state of the art information. This
equipment is about $12K so you will not see it in my shop. There is one tire
shop (which we aren't) in town that seems to think they needed it bad enough
to pop the big bucks. My one experience with their machine trying to make
one of our mutual clients happy with his new Goodyears (and then some more
new Goodyears) and his new alloy wheels (and then some warranty new alloy
wheels) was not good. I do like the alloy wheel idea because alloy wheels
generally run very true but when the tire structure is the problem with
getting a good balance, only a good tire will cure the problem.
IMHO, the force variation Hunter system will have the greatest chance of
matching wheel to tire and making the whole mass go down the road in an
acceptable manner. Matching wheel to tire is a time consuming procedure that
can be accomplished without the Hunter equipment but with a lot of patience.
IMHO, single plane balancing radial tires by any method is close to useless
if road speeds are going to be above 60 MPH.
IMHO, a rotating static, two plane balance done off the car with a spin
balance done with the wheel/tire on the car should be plenty good enough.
This procedure, of course, mates a certain tire/wheel to one position on the
car. This procedure does cost extra which most people are not willing to
spend.
Also, if you study the situation real careful, you will see that car tires
pilot off the wheel studs. So, logically, tires should be balanced off the
wheel studs which is a procedure that is rarely used. Balance an eight stud
pickup tire off the usual cone set up, and you will have a comeback. HAND
TORQUE THE LUG NUTS ON AND THROW THE TORQUE STICKS AWAY.
My wife and I are not in the tire business. We do get into worrying through
road vibration problems in a lot of different vehicles. Tires are a problem
most of the time. My best cure is the installation of Michelin tires. The
brand keeps us out of trouble. BTW, the Hunter machine finds consistently
very low numbers with the Michelin brand. This tid bit I share coming from
the iATN professional technicians group as I have no actual on hands
experience with the Hunter unit.
Hope this helps some and good luck.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:30:58 -0400
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Tire balancing
Hi Paul,
If you isolate the problem to a tire, contact them and they should replace
it.
Tony
on 8/13/02 1:16 PM, Paul Martin at paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> From your reports it seems as though 4-5 oz is the
> norm per tire. On the first go around the installer
> only put weights on the inside to keep a "clean look
> to the rims" On the second pass weights were put on
> both sides. Two tires continued to be a problem and
> one rim was suspect. We changed that tire over to the
> spare rim and it took the same weight. Another tire
> was rotated 180 and it did improve. I am going back to
> another tire store that I know the people and they
> will be a little more patient. What galled me was the
> first store charged me the second time I went back
> because "they didn't sell me the tires".
> Thanks for all your input.
> Paul
> 300F
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:27:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Val Jeffers <edward1108@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: G Brake Linings
Where is the best source for "new" (not relined) shoes ?
Thanks,
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:29:38 -0400
From: "The Valentines" <300g@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 'G' ball & trunion boot
I did a search for Part Number 1450448/ Cover Package. This is the part
number in my 1961 parts book. If this is still a good part number I have
found 2( one each) at the following locations.
DECEPTION PASS MOTOR PARTS
15541 YOKEKO DRIVE
ANACORTES, WA
National Phone: None
Business Phone: 360-299-2582
Email: None
MITCHELL MOTOR PARTS
13459 FAIRMOUNT HWY
FAIRMOUNT, GA
National Phone: None
Business Phone: 706-337-4606
Email: fmmpar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
I have no interest, stock or any relationship with either of these vendors.
The price is probably high. Don't tell them you are having a hard time
finding the boot or the price may skyrocket again. Good luck.
Charlie Valentine
300G
1962 300 Convert.
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From: "Larry Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:37 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 'G' ball & trunion boot
>
> didnt hear any reply concerning the rubber boot needed for the 'ball
> & trunion' style u-joint. anybody have a source? also... whats the route
> being taken to Kalispell, Mt.? are the members going to caravan? just
> wondering, thanks, larri.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:45:23 -0400
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: G Brake Linings - reply
Hi Val,
I don't think you'll be able to find "new" linings anywhere. They are long
out of production. I would also stay away from NOS items - too old.
Best source I know of for fresh relined shoes is Andy Bernbaum.
John
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From: "Val Jeffers" <edward1108@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:27 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] G Brake Linings
>
> Where is the best source for "new" (not relined) shoes ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Val Jeffers
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:38:53 -0700
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 'G' ball & trunion boot
"Deception Pass Motors Parts" is our Club member "Len Dawson". He is an
excellent source of new old stock parts.
John & Arlys Chesnutt, Portland, OR.
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From: "The Valentines" <300g@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Larry Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 'G' ball & trunion boot
> I did a search for Part Number 1450448/ Cover Package. This is the part
> number in my 1961 parts book. If this is still a good part number I have
> found 2( one each) at the following locations.
>
> DECEPTION PASS MOTOR PARTS
> 15541 YOKEKO DRIVE
> ANACORTES, WA
>
> National Phone: None
> Business Phone: 360-299-2582
> Email: None
>
> MITCHELL MOTOR PARTS
> 13459 FAIRMOUNT HWY
> FAIRMOUNT, GA
>
> National Phone: None
> Business Phone: 706-337-4606
> Email: fmmpar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I have no interest, stock or any relationship with either of these
vendors.
> The price is probably high. Don't tell them you are having a hard time
> finding the boot or the price may skyrocket again. Good luck.
>
> Charlie Valentine
> 300G
> 1962 300 Convert.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:37 PM
> Subject: [Chrysler300] 'G' ball & trunion boot
>
>
> >
> > didnt hear any reply concerning the rubber boot needed for the 'ball
> > & trunion' style u-joint. anybody have a source? also... whats the route
> > being taken to Kalispell, Mt.? are the members going to caravan? just
> > wondering, thanks, larri.
> >
> >
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:30:34 -0400
From: "Jerry" <mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Virus alert
Does anyone on the list know of anyway we can track down the SOB who started the Klez virus? I must've received a dozen emails today infected with the virus... and got them from people whose names I don't recognize. I also received a notice from someone I don't know who received one from me! Anyone know how that might have happened? I can't figure it out 'cuz my virus software has caught every incident so far and I delete the emails from my inbox and deleted items box immediately.
Getting to the automotive part, anyone planning on doing the Woodward Dream Cruise this Saturday? I think I've only seen a handful of 300s and Forward Lookers out there actually cruising the last few years.... mine being one of them. There's been plenty of the mid-to-late-60s Mopar Muscle. If you are going to cruise, I'd suggest getting there in mid-morning and doing a couple of passes before noon 'cuz it really backs up around that time. There are also several shows up and down Woodward. Don't recall if they're having one at the State Fairgrounds this year but the one on 9 Mile Road will be there as well as a few more between Ferndale and Pontiac. Hope to see some of you and catch you with my digital camera.
Jerry Browarski
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:18:51 EDT
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Virus alert
In a message dated 8/14/2002 2:34:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Does anyone on the list know of anyway we can track down the SOB who started
> the Klez virus? I must've received a dozen emails today infected with the
> virus... and got them from people whose names I don't recognize. I also
> received a notice from someone I don't know who received one from me!
Obviously, this virus used your notebook to distribute copies of whatever it
was that was sent. Some time ago, someone put out a method of preventing
one's address book from being used that way. It had to do with entering an
invalid address as the first one one the book, which would prevcent the use
of subsequent addresses. Does anyone know what that method is? I realize
this is "off topic" but it would benefit everyone on the server if someone
does know to what it is that I am referring.
Pete Fitch
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