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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
2. 1965 Flashback
From: "Steve Ham" <300L@xxxxxxxx>
3. Re: Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Fwd: fuel tank sender
From: joeypilot@xxxxxxx
5. Front U joint on a 62
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
6. Re: Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Parade Green Paint
From: RAKFAR@xxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:21:59 -0500
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
My silly question for today: Is it likely that the pressure regulator on
my C was a dealer-installed piece?
Its a Brisko's Mileage Saver (Exeland, WI). It has a glass bowl like the
carb filters, and has 6 slotted screws on top.
My local 80-something year-old carb guy says these were commonly installed
by car dealers of old...and I should reinstall it with the rebuilt carbs.
So before it joins the to-be-reinstalled parts pile, I figured I'd ask.
Thanks!
Mike V
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:23:03 -0500
From: "Steve Ham" <300L@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1965 Flashback
During the fall of 1965, a few weeks after acquiring the family's 300L, my
dad suggested that we take an after-dinner ride in the 300. Mom was not
invited, so I immediately assumed, "OK, here it comes- the big talk about
the birds and the bees". I was sixteen years old. We got into the car;
Dad drove. He suggested we head out to the turnpike and see how the 300
ran at higher speeds. The Florida Turnpike was brand-new and the first
"big road" in south Florida. We entered at the hwy 84 entrance headed
north and rode in silence for a quite long time before a conversation
about horsepower and gear ratios came up. Gradually our speed increased
to about eighty as we passed Pompano Beach. There had been virtually no
traffic for several minutes when he leaned toward me and said, "Never try
this yourself, but I am an experienced driver". Then the Carter carburetor
bellowed from its full open throttle for many, many seconds and the
speedometer needle headed on around. From the passengers seat in the 300L
the speedometer is distorted but at that moment it looked a few notches
beyond pegged. The 300L speedometer only reads to 120, but we covered at
lot of real estate in a hurry because the turnpike's temporary end in Vero
Beach came up before we were through with the high speed testing. We were
able to make a U-turn in the Service Plaza so we headed south, this time
we me driving. Looking back on it now, I suspect that the talk about sex
got redirected to cars; a subject we were both more comfortable
discussing. Our southbound trip was less eventful, but I was able to push
90 a few times. In retrospect, he gave me a driver's education that night,
that has probably saved my life more than once over the years. We exited
the turnpike at the Broward exit and the toll collector said, "You only
traveled one exit?" "Yes, it was just a little pleasure drive". Pleasure
drive indeed, it was probably the best spent thirty cents of my life.
Steve Ham
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:48:38 -0800
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
Mike,
Dealers installed lots of things for people over the years, I suppose.Fuel
pressure regulators surely don't hurt anything (as long as they don't
impede adequate fuel flow at high speeds).Lowering the pressure at the
carb
inlet will tend to lower the float levels in the carbs , slightly leaning
out the mixture, and possibly helping the gas mileage.Of couse, if your
carbs are already set on the lean side, you probably wouldn't realize any
gain. If it was up to me, I would probably put it back on, it's probably
easier to tune the engine to run & idle more consistently if you don't
have
to depend on that old mechanical fuel pump to deliver the right pressure
all the time.The purists amoung us would probably hassel you for having an
"incorrect" part installed, but if you could document the installation of
it , by the dealer, you could always say"Oh yeah, look at this.".
Mike
At 02:21 PM 2/20/02 -0500, Vath, Michael J. wrote:
>My silly question for today: Is it likely that the pressure regulator on
>my C was a dealer-installed piece?
>Its a Brisko's Mileage Saver (Exeland, WI). It has a glass bowl like the
>carb filters, and has 6 slotted screws on top.
>
>My local 80-something year-old carb guy says these were commonly
installed
>by car dealers of old...and I should reinstall it with the rebuilt
>carbs. So before it joins the to-be-reinstalled parts pile, I figured
>I'd ask.
>
>Thanks!
>Mike V
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:53:59 EST
From: joeypilot@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: fuel tank sender
Some of you were interested in any info that I got pertaining to my fuel
gauge sending unit problem. First, thanks to all that responded. I really
appreciate the help. so, I am sending along an email that I received for
anyone interested. Thanks again!
Joe Schmitt
300-G H/T
Seattle
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:09:26 EST
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
Subject: Front U joint on a 62
Hi Everyone,
I'm new to the group, so I'd like to say Hi.
I writing this to find if anybody has a good parts
source for the front trunnion joint on a 62. I don't
know if I'm going to have to replace the whole
joint or just the worn balls. I haven't taken the
thing apart yet because I don't like to take things
apart without the replacement part nearby. So if
anybody has any experience with this joint the
feedback would be much appriciated.
Thanks,
Sean
Los Angeles
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:15:54 -0800
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
To Michael Vath and 300 members,
Since you have the 300C carburetors ready to install after being rebuilt,
your 300C would run better if you could find and install leaner "metering
rods". The following information was originally sent through the list
server on July 5, 1999 by me.
Chrysler issued a Confidential Technical Bulletin #364, dated July
18,1957,
Subject Carburetor Performance - All Chrysler C 300-C.
"We have received reports of poor idle quality, stumble or hesitation on
acceleration,
stalling on stops or sudden turns on some Chrysler 300C. Considerable
improvement of warm engine performance can be obtained by following the
service correction outlined below:"
The Bulletin outlines an eight step process.
In step # 7, they say to install (Carter #120-193) Chrysler
Part #1631356 (.057") secondary jets in the front carburetor only. Use
original secondary jets in the rear carburetor. Install (Carter #75-1160)
Chrysler Part #1631394 metering rods in both front and rear carburetors.
Make the preliminary idle setting by closing off completely the idle
by-pass
air screws of both carburetors.
My 57 300 C carbs were modified in 1957 as per Bulletin #364. The idle
by-pass air screws on my 300C have been completely closed since 1957. I
have been using Carter # 75-1181 metering rods which are
# 2 lean.
Metering rods have three steps -- Economy, Mid and wide open.
1957 300C - Carburetor # 2534S & 2535S, Specifications
#75-1263 is original 1957 .075" x .065" x .042"
1958 300D - Carburetor #2741S & 2742S, Specifications
#75-1160 is 1958 Standard .076" x .066" x .048"
#75-1180 is 1 lean .077" x .068" x .052"
#75-1181 is 2 lean .078" x .070" x .055"
The #75-1181 is for high altitude over 4,000 feet and will run smoothly at
sea level.
In a letter written by E.P. Carr, Car Engineering, Chrysler Corporation,
to
the original owner of my 300C, dated April 8, 1958, Mr. Carr states:
Fuel economy at 4,000 feet could be improved by using our Altitude Package
which contains one size leaner metering rods Carter No. 75-1180.
My 300C has a good idle and runs very smoothly with the "high altitude"
meter rods. The 300C was
made to go fast and the Chrysler engineers richen the fuel mixture
accordingly. The above Bulletin suggests
#75-1160 for normal driving as the engine needs to be leaned.
Hope that it is not too late for you to consider modifying your carbs as
per
above.
John & Arlys Chesnutt, Portland, OR. 300C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:21 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Brisko's Mileage Saver - dealer installed?
> My silly question for today: Is it likely that the pressure regulator on
my C was a dealer-installed piece?
> Its a Brisko's Mileage Saver (Exeland, WI). It has a glass bowl like the
carb filters, and has 6 slotted screws on top.
>
> My local 80-something year-old carb guy says these were commonly
installed
by car dealers of old...and I should reinstall it with the rebuilt carbs.
So before it joins the to-be-reinstalled parts pile, I figured I'd ask.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike V
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 02:59:39 EST
From: RAKFAR@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Parade Green Paint
Dave---
No puns intended, but the topic of paint is a slippery slope. I
have
in times past elicited heated opinions on the subject, and I don't want to
start that again. Therefore, the solution I will suggest is but one
solution
to your problem; it may or may not be the best one.
Tower Paint in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, 1-800-779-6520 has most all old
domestic paint formulas (and many foreign ones, too). For about twelve
bucks
they will sell you a custom spraycan of "Parade Green" in your choice of
lacquer or enamel. Use that can to spray a sample card that a good paint
shop
can then match in a modern base/clear equivalent. I did exactly this
(using
Dupont base/cc) on my '66 Dodge Coronet Hemi, and it turned out great.
Make
SURE you get an experienced hand to match your sample though. Computers
are
not the final answer, they just get you in the ballpark. It takes an
experienced eye to get it exactly right.
300F'ly,
Roger Karlson
In a message dated 2/20/2002 1:40:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
<< Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:13:36 -0600
From: "David Schwandt" <finsrus@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Parade Green Paint
Hi Gang!
Dave Schwandt Here,
Just relayed the good news about the 1/4s to my body shop that at present
has the C driver door to strip and iron out the creases. They were asking
about paint color. They have the correct Chrysler code for Parade Green
and
they use DuPont products in their shop. I'd like to do the car in
Base/Clear
instead of the old DuLux which is all that is available from DuPont so I'm
told. Need to get some legwork done on a formula for the Base/Clear.
They suggested getting the DuLux and spraying a test panel then getting a
picture of it that they can then get a formula for the base/clear??
Any paint folks out there care to weigh in on this for me? The
Base/clear....Is that a good deal or what? I really don't know squat about
paint but I do want the car as close as possible to the original color
tho.
Not concerned about the "orange peel" finish.
There is original paint under the wide windshield upper moulding. Would
that
do for their "picture"? It seems to me to be a really light color compared
to
what is inside the trunk lid. Speaking of inside the trunk lid, that paint
is
really a mess with runs and streaks, just like the original paint on the
firewall.
Any input on this would be appreciated greatly. Perhaps someone out there
has done Parade Green and already has the proper code for the B/C coat.
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