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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Louisville Meet
From: pghskyliner@xxxxxxx
2. Lost Camera at Banquet
From: "Jess" <jdmiklas@xxxxxxx>
3. Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
From: Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx
4. Re: Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
From: "Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
6. Re: Digest Number 35
From: "Carol & Dave Smith" <cdsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. 1963 Pace Car - Jo-Han Model
From: "Louis O'Neill" <loneill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:34:40 +0000
From: pghskyliner@xxxxxxx
Subject: Louisville Meet
Hi Everyone:
Just a quick note to let anyone who could not make the
Louisville Meet know that Bob and Elizabeth did a
fantastic job and it was a SUPER MEET. Kathy and I had a
really good time and I cann't thank Bob enough for
everything he did for for me when we had some Brake
Problems on the HURST.
If you missed this meet, then you really missed a great
time. So try to make the spring meet.
Thanks again
Tom & Kathy Kunkle
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:41:34 -0400
From: "Jess" <jdmiklas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Lost Camera at Banquet
Group:
Did anyone find or pick up by mistake a YELLOW DISPOSABLE CAMERA at the meet banquet?. It had the word CARLISLE prominently written on it.
Any info appreciated - please repond privately - Thank you!
Jeff Miklas - jdmiklas@xxxxxxx
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:12:38 EDT
From: Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx
Subject: Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
There was an earlier post about a missing disposible camera from recent meet.
If you have information about it's whereabouts, please contact me first. I
WILL MAKE IT WORTH YOUR WHILE if you have this camera!!
Larry Jett
950 Woodside Road Suite 4
Redwood City, CA 94061
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:22:56 -0500
From: "Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
Ok this is getting interesting.
Must be some good shots???
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From: <Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 4:12 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
> There was an earlier post about a missing disposible camera from recent
meet.
> If you have information about it's whereabouts, please contact me first.
I
> WILL MAKE IT WORTH YOUR WHILE if you have this camera!!
>
> Larry Jett
> 950 Woodside Road Suite 4
> Redwood City, CA 94061
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:38:36 EDT
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Before you talk to jdmiklas, TALK TO ME FIRST
In a message dated 9/24/2001 4:35:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Ok this is getting interesting.
>
> Must be some good shots???
>
Is there such a thing as 'GOOD' shots in Columbus??
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:13:15 -0700
From: "Carol & Dave Smith" <cdsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 35
Please remove our email address from your list.
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Subject: [Chrysler300] Digest Number 35
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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Hot Time In Louisville
From: "Ed/Jan Hermes" <ehermes@xxxxxxxx>
4. Re: 600 Horsepower from the factory?
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
5. Re: 600 HP from the factory?:
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
6. Re: Hot Time In Louisville
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
7. Re: Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
From: "Al Wilson" <wilson1450@xxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:18:29 +1200
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
Had an HP2 440 in my 300J with short rams when I purchased it, 3.91 sure
grip. Got up to speed real quick, but revved it's nut off above 70mph! Often
wondered what one of those new crate 500 inch wedge motors would be like
with a set of short rams, and cast extractors from a J or K. Anyone tried
it?
Owen
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From: Magik Draggin' <longrammopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
> I have heard that the addition of a performance cam in a long-ram 300
(such
> as my "G") would be more of a detriment to overall performance than a
help.
>
> If this is the case, what of the so-called "short rams" of the later 300's
> and would the same problem persist if a HP cam were installed in one of
> those vehicles also?
>
> And finally, were there any 300's ever made with 440's and any sort of
> short, long, or cross ram manifolding?
>
> Karl
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 18:14:58 -0400
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
Karl,
It all depends on the specifications of the "performance" cam selected.
Most "performance" cams have longer duration (valve open time expressed in
crankshaft degrees of rotation) than stock factory cams. This accounts for
their rough idle, loss on low rpm power, and lack of intake manifold vacuum.
The cam supplied in your long ram engine had a rated duration in the 260
degree range. The cams supplied with the short rams were in the 292 degree
range. The longer duration enhanced the ram effect at the higher operating
ranges of the short rams. The lift at the valves was similar for both cams.
What you need for improving your long ram motor is a cam with about the same
duration, but with more valve lift. Opening the door (valves) further will
improve cylinder filling at the rpm range in which the long rams work well
without the undesirable side effects that longer durations impose. Going
from .440" to .540" lift will certainly wake the engine up. Contact any
reputable cam grinder (Isky, Comp Cams, Crane, etc.) and they should be able
to help you select a cam and also what other changes you may need to make to
accomodate the increased lift.
Larry Johnson
>From: "Magik Draggin'" <longrammopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 23:13:36 -0500
>
>I have heard that the addition of a performance cam in a long-ram 300 (such
>as my "G") would be more of a detriment to overall performance than a help.
>
>If this is the case, what of the so-called "short rams" of the later 300's
>and would the same problem persist if a HP cam were installed in one of
>those vehicles also?
>
>And finally, were there any 300's ever made with 440's and any sort of
>short, long, or cross ram manifolding?
>
>Karl
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 18:12:25 -0400
From: "Ed/Jan Hermes" <ehermes@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Hot Time In Louisville
All,
If you weren't able to attend meet in Louisville, you missed a great time.
This was Janet and my first Chrysler 300 Club event and we had a wonderful
time. We wish we had arrived on Wednesday instead of Friday, so we could
have had two additional days of fun and learning. All of the people we
talked (and drank) with, were hospitable and incredibly knowledgeable about
their particular year car and the Chrysler 300 marque in general.....and
what impressed us most is everyone is willing to share their knowledge no
matter how trivial the question might be.
Maybe some of you don't realize, or take for granted, what a unique
organization and wealth of information you have...it took us newcomers about
five minutes to see that this group is worth spending time with. And we plan
on doing just that.
Congrats on a great meet. All of the work and time invested by the various
members was worthwhile.
Ed and Janet Hermes
Cincinnati
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:50:41 EDT
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 600 Horsepower from the factory?
In a message dated 9/19/2001 2:01:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
RAKFAR@xxxxxxx
writes:
> 600+ horsepower from the factory? And what factory would that be, Ron?
>
> 300F'ly
>
> Roger Karlson
>
> P.S. The hemis in Hemi-Cuda's were rated at 425HP
>
The factory that produces Hemi crates Roger!!
p.s. Chrysler is well known for underating the HP on their motors and this
one is rated at 550 from the factory ROGER!!!
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:01:07 EDT
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 600 HP from the factory?:
In a message dated 9/21/2001 3:46:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
mr-320@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> dave;
> btw, btw. if youll check out some more of the models and years,
> for the 426 hemi, i think that youll find that not all were taken at
> 5000 or 5200, some were rated at 4500 rpm, least that is what my book
> says and as were a couple of my cars. it isnt me, it was wilcap and the
> article in hot rod that said 600+, you are quite welcome to decide to
> disbelieve all you wish. i can tell you that as the past owner of 6
> different hemi cars over a 20 year period, that they DID make QUITE a
> lot more power in the 6000 and up area than they did at 4500 or 5000,
> DRAMATICALLY MORE POWER !!!! if youve never owned a hemi then you just
> dont understand what they did in 3 rd and 4th gear at full throttle, as
> the r's climbed from 4500 to 6500[ish]; they felt like a freight train
> coming on, and on and on, nothing like them that ive ever driven. it is
> [was] something like the [really] big brother of the free boost that the
> long rams give, as the r's go up and they come on.
>
> JEFF
> tucson az.
>
Yepp
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:16:56 EDT
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Hot Time In Louisville
Ed & Janet,
It was a pleasure meeting and chatting with you folks too!!
Congrats on a beautiful car, and hope you guys can make it to Newport in
May!
Ron...
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:21:41 -0500
From: "Al Wilson" <wilson1450@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Cams, ram manifolds and stuff.
Hughes Cam ( http://www.hughesengines.com/cams/bhydflatlist.asp )
recommended a HE3038BL for a long ram motor I am building for a '60
Plymouth. This one has a 223° @.050", .504" intake and a 230° @.050", .538"
exhaust spec. Should you call them, be prepared to answer a lot of
questions about your application.
Al Wilson
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>I have heard that the addition of a performance cam in a long-ram 300 (such
>as my "G") would be more of a detriment to overall performance than a help.
>
>If this is the case, what of the so-called "short rams" of the later 300's
>and would the same problem persist if a HP cam were installed in one of
>those vehicles also?
>
>And finally, were there any 300's ever made with 440's and any sort of
>short, long, or cross ram manifolding?
>
>Karl
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:42:15 -0400
From: "Louis O'Neill" <loneill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1963 Pace Car - Jo-Han Model
Dear All,
To finance the continuing restoration of my 1963 Pace Car, I'm selling all kinds of my stuff (motorcycle, bicycles, books, etc.).
That includes an original 1963 Jo-Han model of the 300 Pace Car that I bought at Hershey last year. The model has been built and immaculately painted in Pace Car green/blue, white and chrome (although the builder made the engine orange instead of the factory-proper pine green). It's 8 1/2 inches long and 3 inches wide, the hood opens, the tires are rubber and it has the original Pace Car "Indy" message along the side. It comes with the original box from 1963, which is in very good shape. The only flaw is that the rear view mirror has partially cracked off - luckily it's not very noticeable.
I paid $300 for it and just want to get what I paid for this rare item. If anyone's interested, please let me know.
300ly,
Lou
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