[Chrysler300] Digest Number 871
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[Chrysler300] Digest Number 871
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- Date: 23 Jan 2004 15:04:30 -0000
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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Cases of Mobil Oil
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
2. 57 300's, possibly 58's also
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Whitewall drag slicks
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
5. Re: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Exhaust and Heads on 355 HP 300 B
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
7. RE: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Cases of Mobil Oil
From: fastedgie@xxxxxxx
9. Re: Cases of Mobil Oil
From: "KELLY PIERCE" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:50:52 -0700
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Cases of Mobil Oil
Hi list,
Has this ever happened to anyone else?
I just opened a new case of Mobil 5W30 motor oil for my wifes PT Cruiser, only to find 11 quarts of oil instead of 12. No wonder it was on sale! I wouldn't normally write about this except for the fact that this is the second time this has happened to me in about 6 months. The last time it was 20W50 oil. I know I'll look a bit strange in the store, but I'm going to open the cases before I buy from now on.
John
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:05:59 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 57 300's, possibly 58's also
Turns out that someone on another list needed replacement springs
for his Plymouth 2x4 carb setup. He has found NEW springs that
are very very close to an exact match for the springs he needed.
AND they look like they are the same springs that the 57 Chrysler
300's used.
(at least compairing them to the ones I have)
IF anyone is interested in new carb springs I can supply contact
information.
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:26:13 -0500
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Whitewall drag slicks
Hello & happy almost-Friday.
Santa put no cheater slicks under my tree. Sooo, I guess I'll have to find
'em myself. I'm trying to oufit the C coupe with the right shoes to complete
the racing look. Since the new Cokers and Radirs are kinda pricey, I
thought I'd go fishin' for used ones..
Anybody out there have some used whitewall slicks or ww cheater slicks
gathering dust?
many thanks!
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:18:40 EST
From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
Hi Everyone Out In Chrysler 300 Land!
Slight problem or so I hope. When I pump the accelerator once to start the
engine, it kicks over, starts, and runs rough for a couple of minutes! There
is black soot exhaust on the floor of my garage. After a couple of minutes she
just runs just fine. I live in Florida so it can't be due to "cold weather"!
The carbs were rebuilt some few months back so I don't think or hope that it
is not that. Any suggestions.
Thanks and Happy Chryslering!
Tom Kosky
Miami, Florida
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:03:18 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
Hi Tom;
What happens if you DON'T give it a shot to set the chokes?
Now, BEFORE starting, take off the aircleaner and see if the butterflys are
wet. You're looking to see if the carb is draining down and dripping gas
down the throat into the manifold. That would make it rich in the base below
the carb and/or the runners and/or pooled behind the valves to some extent.
Then when you give it one shot to set the chokes, you've added more fuel and
get a rich condition. This could be caused by a slightly high float level,
though not high enough to make it run bad at idle (spill over).
Since you say that it runs ok once it gets past the rich condition, the
carbs are basicly OK.
Let us know how it turns out, Ray
--
Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
> From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:18:40 EST
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
>
> Hi Everyone Out In Chrysler 300 Land!
>
> Slight problem or so I hope. When I pump the accelerator once to start the
> engine, it kicks over, starts, and runs rough for a couple of minutes! There
> is black soot exhaust on the floor of my garage. After a couple of minutes
> she
> just runs just fine. I live in Florida so it can't be due to "cold weather"!
> The carbs were rebuilt some few months back so I don't think or hope that it
> is not that. Any suggestions.
>
> Thanks and Happy Chryslering!
>
> Tom Kosky
> Miami, Florida
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:46:43 +1300
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Exhaust and Heads on 355 HP 300 B
Hi all,
Since we're talking early hp hemi exhausts, I was curious to find out what
original application these exhaust manifolds on eBay are for. They appear to
be the same design as the high performance/truck 4 bolts but only have a 2
bolt flange.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34203&item
=2454309894
Thanks
Owen
----- Original Message -----
From: <lettercars@xxxxxxx>
To: <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Exhaust and Heads on 355 HP 300 B
> Hi Roger and All:
> The 300B achieved 355HP thru the use of a higher compression head. I
assume
> it was just the regular one milled, but do not know for sure. The 355HP
heads
> were assigned different part numbers, 1730369 and 70. This would be the
case
> whether or not other changes were made besides just milling to achieve the
10
> to 1 comp. ratio. The Chrysler letter to dealers, dated June 13, 1956
> announcing the availability of these heads, does state they are not
interchangeable
> with the 9.0 to 1 heads on the 1955 model "300s".
> Certainly the larger (3" dia.) exhaust system would also help with power
> increase, although for gross HP rating such as 355 was, most of the system
would
> not be in place.
> Of course, these changes were mainly for the purpose of keeping Kiekhaefer
> (and others) competative on the racing circuit. I think he pretty much
got what
> he asked for! Hope this answers some of your question. 300ly, Gil
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:04:05 -0500
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
Hi Tom,
Sounds to me like the choke is sticking shut causing the over-rich
coondition. The condition goes away when there is finally enough heat
present to open the choke. Check to see if there's a little vacuum canister
(choke pull off) on the passenger side of the AFB that is supposed open the
choke partially during warmup. These frequently go bad and don't open the
choke. Test it by sucking on the inlet to see if it will hold a vacuum.
>From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
>To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:18:40 EST
>Hi Everyone Out In Chrysler 300 Land!
>
>Slight problem or so I hope. When I pump the accelerator once to start the
>engine, it kicks over, starts, and runs rough for a couple of minutes!
>There
>is black soot exhaust on the floor of my garage. After a couple of minutes
>she
>just runs just fine. I live in Florida so it can't be due to "cold
>weather"!
> The carbs were rebuilt some few months back so I don't think or hope that
>it
>is not that. Any suggestions.
>
>Thanks and Happy Chryslering!
>
>Tom Kosky
>Miami, Florida
>
>
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:22:56 EST
From: fastedgie@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Cases of Mobil Oil
Hi John,
Well you did all right!
In Canada, we open a case of 12 and find only 6. So you got a bonus of 5.
Next time I am in the States, I will be happy to pick up a case of 11.
By the way, how do they fill a rectanglar box with 11 quarts? I am sure the
oil companies will find a way.
Ed Del Grande
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:29:48 -0700
From: "KELLY PIERCE" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Cases of Mobil Oil
John and Club-
It is a sad state to think we have to check before leaving a store that
we are getting all of what we pay for, but true. Most automated systems have
a glitch now and them, missing a quart or it falls out before sealing, or
flat employee theft can occur as well. Yes, open the box and if someone asks
you what you are doing, tell them your experience. Look at cans in the
grocery store- look the same as they used to- but many are 11 ounces now
instead of the 12 ounces they used to be. Usually the same price, just less
product. Subtle but costly to us the consumer. Reminds me of GM's 350 engine
scam in the late 70's early 80's with Oldsmobile buyers. Yes your car still
has a 350 cid engine, but gee, it's a Chevy instead of the more costly to
produce Olds 350.... And we didn't tell you that or cut the price of the
car? That little shell game cost the general a few million after the law
suits. Remember- BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!
Joe Pierce 300Kx3+M+others....
----- Original Message -----
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:50 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Cases of Mobil Oil
> Hi list,
> Has this ever happened to anyone else?
>
> I just opened a new case of Mobil 5W30 motor oil for my wifes PT Cruiser,
only to find 11 quarts of oil instead of 12. No wonder it was on sale! I
wouldn't normally write about this except for the fact that this is the
second time this has happened to me in about 6 months. The last time it was
20W50 oil. I know I'll look a bit strange in the store, but I'm going to
open the cases before I buy from now on.
> John
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:20:57 -0800
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
If memory serves me correctly, early AFB's do not have a separate vacuum
choke pull off. It has a piston that is built into the choke thermostat
housing, and is ported directly to a passage in the carb body. I know the
ram carbs are like this, but don't have an E carb to look at right now. If
the car starts and runs normally when warm, it is probably something to do
with the choke though.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Laurence G. Johnson <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <trkosky@xxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
> Hi Tom,
> Sounds to me like the choke is sticking shut causing the over-rich
> coondition. The condition goes away when there is finally enough heat
> present to open the choke. Check to see if there's a little vacuum
canister
> (choke pull off) on the passenger side of the AFB that is supposed open
the
> choke partially during warmup. These frequently go bad and don't open the
> choke. Test it by sucking on the inlet to see if it will hold a vacuum.
>
>
> >From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
> >To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [Chrysler300] Fuel & Carburation on the 59E
> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:18:40 EST
> >Hi Everyone Out In Chrysler 300 Land!
> >
> >Slight problem or so I hope. When I pump the accelerator once to start
the
> >engine, it kicks over, starts, and runs rough for a couple of minutes!
> >There
> >is black soot exhaust on the floor of my garage. After a couple of
minutes
> >she
> >just runs just fine. I live in Florida so it can't be due to "cold
> >weather"!
> > The carbs were rebuilt some few months back so I don't think or hope
that
> >it
> >is not that. Any suggestions.
> >
> >Thanks and Happy Chryslering!
> >
> >Tom Kosky
> >Miami, Florida
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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