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Not true, 58 Fury's with 318 still had WCFB's.
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] interesting
A
300D with WCFB’s? I think not. Is it a 300C? They had WCFB’s. 300D’s sported
AFB’s as did all 1958 Mopars with four barrel carb(s).
John
Hagen
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Rawa
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:22 PM
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Subject:
Re: [FWDLK] interesting
there
is a difference you can feel when driving with added torque multiplication of 3
gears... hate to say it but powerflite cars kinda suck to drive... slush along
until 2nd, then its over... my friend daily drives a 56 firedome, equipped
with 300D 392 [yes, bumps in the valve covers, 2 WCFB's n all] and street parks
it just on the utshirts of philadelphia PA... i just built his a liquid cooled
torqueflite for it as he was running the 56 powerflite behind the hemi just to
keep his pushbuttons, well, we got a 5 button unit, 56 imperial torqueflite
buttons, and fabbed a 1-off 56 desoto 5 button selector plate. he is
exstatic over the improved driving of the car, city fuel economy has gone up
drastically, though highway is the same obviously [noted on his 3 hr trip a few
weeks ago] this is a car that get driven to TX, RI, and canada for
business somewhat regularly...
its
just a personal preference... i just picked up a 13k mile survivor 301 2bbl
savoy 2dr, with powerflite... its already out- gave it to a friend who needed an
emergency trans...
but
this is coming from a guy who ditches a .030 over fresh 318/iron TF with only
2700 miles on it, to sell to a friend.. to swap in a 300E equipped 440 into my
2dr57 wagon with 65 cable 727... so far with about 100 miles since i put it al
in and did my run-in... i'm seeing the same fuel use with the 440 and 3.23
suregrip as i did with 318 and 2.76 center... more torque on tap means less
work... case in point - more torque multiplication = less work, so a 3spd trand
makes a more efficient, and peppy car!
in
other cars i'll run 11:1 440s with 4.10 gears for 2-7 hr trips... alot of
members have seen it and know the car[s] i speak of!
why do
you think most modern vehicles of quality run 5 or 6 speed automatics? its to
stay in a managed powerband for economy, and
performance.
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From: Brent Burger <cgico@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK
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Sent:
Fri, Sep 21, 2012 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: [FWDLK]
interesting
What's
the problem with a Powerflite ? I had one in my 56 Adventurer. Never
noticed anything wrong with it. That car scooted right along, cooled fine.
Guys make a big deal out of the T-flite over the P-flite, but honestly,
with the way most people drive them, who cares ?
BTW
- the 58 Plaza I am currently restoring is a bare bones stripper - black walls,
dog dishies, no trim and monotone paint, no radio, etc. ..... but it got
318, TF, PS, PB, and A/C ! Go figger !
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On
Sep 21, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Ron Hilbert wrote:
You
forgot the rear end gear ratio has to be changed as well.
PowerFlight
is a 3.54 ratio and the TorqueFlight is a 3.36 ratio.
In
addition you also have to change the radiator as the PowerFlight is air cooled.
Add the coolant lines from the transmission to the radiator.
It
adds up to a lot of expense…
Too
bad it didn't come from the factory with a TorqueFlight.
57
Plymouth Belvedere convertible
there's
a ginger-colored 57 belv on ebay, or was recently... the 6cyl PS issue spawned
recollection of something interesting about that car.. its a 2drht, power
steering, power brakes, power windows, 301 4bbl car... with a
POWERFLITE!!???!!
who
chose all those options, if it was factory delivered as such... but kept the
1,2, thats it trans?
just
odd. all that one needs is a trans swap, driveshaft, cable, actuator, buttons,
bezel, and TV linkage swap and its golden!
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