Re: [FWDLK] MAJOR CHANGES IN THE COLLECTOR CAR MARKET???

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From: Ron Swartley <Archangel1390@xxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] MAJOR CHANGES IN THE COLLECTOR CAR MARKET???

I only 50% agree with you. First I am not just talking Mopar's, I mean all American cars.

Adam, these guys are finally coming around to your thinking. People that are not Mopar purists look at your car for the first time, and think it is beautiful. I am talking about collectors of all cars, not Mopar Purists.

The auction is on right now----count the customs and count the 100% stockers.

They did not sell when they called them 'CLONES"

They did not sell when they called them"CUSTOMS"

They did not sell when they called them "COPIES"

The did not sell when they called them " Modified"

But now they call them a beautiful " RECREATION" and it is a complement to the customized car.

RECREATIONS IS THE NEW MARKETING PHRASE IN THE MARKET PLACE.

Ron

PS. When I say RECREATION I DO MEAN TASTEFULLY DONE,

In a message dated 1/23/2011 3:02:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, AdamL57@xxxxxxx writes:

A lot depends on the car. A Satellite that was Grandma green with a matching gut, 318/904 combo is worth a lot more modified (tastefully of course) but an original 440/6 Road Runner or any Hemi car is worth more stock unless it has a racing history and is in as raced form. A Model a coupe done right is worth more as a HOTROD than a stocker, an original Duesenburg, Auburn, Cord, ect.(and it'd be a sin to touch one), is worth more stock. Our cars fall in the which make/ model you have category. A really nice customized red Savoy sedan would bring more money than a stock green one, it seems that Christine clones bring more than stock 57-8 Plymouth Belveredes and Savoys, and it probably goes the same for Chrysler Windsor sedans, Newports, ect. But once you talk Chrysler 300's, New Yorker hardtops, Desoto Adventurers and hardtops, D500s,all convertibles, and Furys, it's probably more financially wise to leave them alone, My Fury excluded from that of course.

Just my 2 cents,

Adam Lindenbaum

In a message dated 1/23/2011 2:42:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

RON

I only happend to see one auction

A 1960 CORVETTE,,,absolutely STRIP STOCK,,NUMBER MATCHING,,283,,

NO EXPENSE SPARED in making it factory orig!!!

ORIG COLOR,,ETC ETC ETC ETC

Not even a peice of aftermarket dice hanging from the mirror

$100K

NOT BAD!! for a market that now like mods!!!

ED ECKERSON

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Ron Swartley wrote:



                   It is an undisputed fact that Barrett-Jackson is the biggest and most        expensive auction in the world, attracting buyers from all over the world.        The fact that there can be NO RESERVE on any vehicle sold there means if        your car is not near perfect you could loose a ton of money. Barrett        Jackson is also the world's most televised car event being shown around        the world. These are all undisputed facts.

                   We are watching automotive history being made and precedents set by 2011        auction prices which shows what sells high and what does not sell        high and approximately what our similar cars are        worth.

                    I, like thousands of other collectors, was in shock that the amount of PURE STOCK CARS WERE IN THE MINORITY. It showed that the pure stock        cars are now worth more if they have been tastefully        customized!!!!

There was a continuous flow of custom cars and hot rods that        were not kept or put back to 100% stock and they brought higher bids then        90% of the totally stock cars going across the bidding        block.

                   Every year about 20 of us car guys get together and all watch the Barrett        Jackson auction. This year three of our buddies that are purist and have        beautiful 100% stock cars---------actually got up and walked out----they        were totally disgusted with the change in the bidding. Before one purist        left he said, "You very seldom or ever saw hot rods and custom cars        on Barrett Jackson 4 or 5 years ago, and now they dominate the        auction!!!!"

                    I guess we will not hear many purist collector guys saying " MY CAR IS        WORTH A LOT MORE BECAUSE IT IS 100% STOCK IN EVERY WAY". Don't get me        wrong, there were cars there that were 100% stock that brought big        auction prices but most were one of a kind production cars that were        already changed (customized) at the factory before they were shipped        to the new car dealers.

                    So my condolences to all the purists out there, ( I myself was one many        years ago) I know how you must feel. My advice is        accept it or go into denial and try to prove 3 days of world wide facts        broadcast to the world never happen.

                      Of course that is just my opinion, and I could be wrong-----but the        overwhelming facts do point in that direction.

    Ron Swartley



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