Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?
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Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?

I wasn't looking to start a debate here, I was just pointing out a funky car on ebay. I have seen in a junkyard (now long gone), a '57 Fury (yes, a Fury) on a 6 cyl. chassis with a '58 Plaza nose on it. Back in the early days (and recently with pick ups, Jeeps, ect), collision repairs with kinked frames would get a frame replacement, maybe that 300 with the Dodge nose was a '58 300 that was wrecked and repaired using a '59 Dodge frame and nose, same with the '58 Savoy on Ebay.
Adam Lindenbaum



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawa <jrawa@xxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 7:25 am
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?


corrections... noticed as hitting send...
[tuffshift]
pictures
and should have said chassis/platform regarding the H to avoid any corrections since 60-up are unitized body construction-


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawa <jrawa@xxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 7:17 am
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?

hmmmm... that wasnt a personal attack on you [tuffshit]... but more of an education for those out there who believe "the story"- i've only owned 75 or more 57-9 mopars covering almost every model made- except a 59 windsor- why i made the comment of not sure- that right there would be a 58 windsor [not 57 - telltale =windshield] with a 59 dodge nose and "Letter" trim....  a 59 is a completely different car, fins etc..
picuteres are nice... but you're more than welcome to come and visit, see all 3 chassis [118,122, and 126"] with and without bodies, and i will give an in-person demonstration of how a dodge nose WILL NOT be an interchangeable item on a full size chrysler.
letter cars did not downsize until '62 to 122" when the H was built on the newport/dodge880 chassis.




-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Peterson <tuffshift@xxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Nov 7, 2010 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?

"so the "story" of a 300E with a dodge nose didnt happen, unless of course they also swapped the chassis- since im not sure if the windsor in 59 was a 122" wb like 57/8 windsors..."

The "STORY", ya say?  Like what are alluding?....that I just made that up?   Here, for your edification:

Sure looks like 1959 300E with a 1959 Dodge front clip on it to me.  What say you now about my "story"?

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Jim Rawa <jrawa@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Jim Rawa <jrawa@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 1:50 PM

all that is is a 58 savoy that needed a nose after a possible accident and a 59 dodge nose was available... all 118/122" wb noses interchange- that means all plymouths, dodges, and desoto firesweep and chrysler windsor.
the firedome and full size chryslers are 126wb and the fenders are longer-   so the "story" of a 300E with a dodge nose didnt happen, unless of course they also swapped the chassis- since im not sure if the windsor in 59 was a 122" wb like 57/8 windsors...



-----Original Message-----
From: Jan & Roger van Hoy <vanhilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?

Some of these weird combinations are the offspring of some freaky creative types, not factory issued.  A while back there was a "factory" '61 "Mexican" Plymouth with a Dodge front clip that was debunked by some of our list members as a recent creation.  It helps that the front doors were basically the same on many different models.  GM copied that idea in '59.
 
--Roger van Hoy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?

You think that's weird....I saw a pic of a 59 Chrysler 300E with a 59 Dodge front clip on it.  Ma Chrysler had some really odd "Frankensteins" during the days of the FWDLK era.

--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Daniel Andersson <danne.mobil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Daniel Andersson <danne.mobil@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 11:51 AM

Sine the owner says that the VIN is incorrect this car isn't real but there was Plymouths built with Dodge front clip.
 
In Sweden in the 50s (aswell as in Canada) the was Plymouths with DeSoto front = DeSoto Diplomat and there was Plymouths with Dodge front = Dodge Kingsway. The Kingsway had the Plymouth dash but with the letters "D O D G E" in the aluminium around the speedo instead of "P L Y M O U T H". Here is a few cars left here in Sweden mostly 4 door sedan sine most of them where used as taxis when they where new. If you searh for the "Kingsway" I think you can find the information
 
Daniel Andersson
Sweden 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:06 AM
Subject: [FWDLK] OK, WTF is this?

I know Chrysler did the Plodge thing in Canada, but a 59 Dodge nose on a '58 Plymouth body, this isn't real is it?
 
Adam Lindenbaum
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