I don't think so....more likely they were a running-change to the seats;
look WAY too
professionally-done, and fitted to the seat tracks
The seat was still way-low, even with the wood strips installed; they
were not, really "blocks" of
wood.
Dave's 56 HAS chair-height seats on it; without those seat wood
raising-strips, you'd recline like
you were sitting in a Ferrari
Neil Vedder
David Homstad wrote:
I think wood blocks under the seat track was a common dealer thing added for
short customers.
A buddy of mine bought a 53 Olds 98 2 dr ht from the original owner little
old lady who was about 4'11". The power seat still needed 2 inch wood blocks
under it, so at max height, she could see over the dash. She said the blocks
were installed by the dealer.
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Front seat problem
On my 57 HT, decades ago, I noticed that the factory/sub-contractor had
installed about 1/2" tall wood
blocks under the manual seat's 'legs-bases' in order to increase the
height of the seat.
The car was built in late March; I don't know when this non-adjustable
seat height increase was instituted.
I saw a 1959 Custom Royal 4-dr sedan which was in fine #3 condition, but
which was sacrificed to restore
a basket case CRL convertible, after its swivel (power, IIRC) seat was
removed.
I immediately noticed that the floor pan was virtually flat, compared to
the 57-58 models, which required that
DEEP OEM floor troughs had to be welded into the floor pans, in order
to accept the power seat control-lifter
mechanisms.
Power bench seats WERE available in 1959 (Speed Age famously tested a
1959 CRL D500 convertible
with air suspension, and a power bench seat) .
I'm wondering if Nick's car might have 57-58 power seat
adjuster-mechanisms on it.
I retrofitted a 57 CHY power bench seat onto my car (complete with the
installation of its deep-troughs into
the floor pans) and always have its seat height residing at maximum
altitude---in this position, the seat
is not quite at "chair-height", but, there is not much room to slide my
legs under the steering wheel
and the seat cushion.
Once seated, the steering wheel is at a very nice angle-position, and my
head is well under
the headliner, and I am 5'10" .
Neil Vedder
jrawa@xxxxxxx wrote:
all manual bench seats from 57-59 use the same frame/tracks, the
swivel seats were a 59 only issue of those 3 yrs... and have their own
tracks. there are no adjustments as on the later c-bodies. all 3
years of the cars' floor pans are the same, with no difference for
swivel cars, as ron already noted. there are 2 versions of the lower
section of the frt seat though, just the way the springs attach to the
frame, but it doesnt affect the height.
the floor is recessed where the seat tracks go, with an understructure
of 10ga metal, that has buttresses to the rocker to support the seat.
if you were to pull a straight line form the major surface of the
floor to the lowered section of where the track legs bolt through - ti
would be about 1/2 - 5/8 lower after a 2-step drpression on a factory
panel.
i have repadded and reupholstered several of my 57-9 already over the
yrs, and based on how i set up the foam, varies the seating height...
i havent had to deal with a rusted floor for the past 20 or so
forwardlook cars so i know everything is in check and the variable is
the seat foam, on 1 58 plym i have about 1" clearance to the cieling
[at 6' tall] since i padded it very firm on the acct of drag racing,
another i did with stock thickness foam and i have almost 2.5" of
headroom, my all original 58 with survivor upholstery grants the same
2.5"ish headroom.
its a toss-up, but i'd lean towards acheiving a correct mounting
height- unless the upholsterer went out of control, its a little hard
to over pad a swivel seat than a typical bench- especially if they
used the original upholstery as a pattern.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan & Roger van Hoy <vanhilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Front seat problem
This might be a long shot, but... the seats in the later MoPars, at
least the C bodies around '65 and after, had manual adjustments on the
front seat tracks. Two bolts and two slots to raise and lower and/or
move front or back. Maybe you could use that sort of seat track on
your '59.
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth,
'66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge
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<mailto:nick.barb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: [FWDLK] Front seat problem
My '59 Plymouth has swivel seats and the floor pans has been replaced
at some point. The front seat has been reupholstered and the seat
sits higher than it is supposed to, mainly because the floor pans are
sitting higher than the originals. Also, the seat being reupholstered
doesn't help, as the newer cushions are sitting higher than an old
worn down seat would. Anyone have any thoughts and how to lower the
seat without having to redo the floor pans?? Removing some cushion
material was all I could think of. I am 6 feet tall which causes my
head
to be right at the top of the headliner with the seat as is.
Any info greatly appreciated.
Nick Nichols
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