I haven't been following this thread, as it was previously discussed on
the FWDLK website.
IIRC, it was claimed, on that other thread, that the Chubbie either did not have an engine, or that its engine was a 6-banger, so that, at any rate, the impact force did not involve the contributed mass/inertia/effect/protection which would have been afforded by having a large heavy V/8 engine be installed in the Chubbie, versus the much lesser mass of the modern car. Neil Vedder '57 Super D500 wrote: Nothing about politics to follow, here… Just my personal experience with weight.Might be hard to follow, because of the European brand cars mentioned, but being who I am, I just thought it might add up to the subject.My first car was a 20 y.o. (then) Volvo 144, back in the early eighties. Tough car, they’re still driving around, here. It weighs a lot, I don’t know exactly how much, and that doesn’t matter so much, here,Once I came back from an exercise with the Marine Corps in Northern Scotland. I had to drive a lot there and it so happens that they’re driving on the left side of the road. Takes some time to adjust to that, and safely take a roundabout, but then you’re fine.I’ll beat the crap. When back in The Netherlands, my friends took me for a night out. In my own car, and I was driving, of course. Having a busy conversation with my four passengers – maybe politics? LOL! – I didn’t pay enough attention, and at a roundabout I took a left turn, as I was accustomed to do in Scotland. There came this brand new Zastava (Yugoslavian Fiat). With it’s left front fender, the Volvo hit it right in it’s radiator. The Zastava was totalled. After we bended the fender back off from the wheel, we could continue our night out.Maybe the weight of me and my friends added in, with us all wearing “The Fonz” leather jackets, but definitely the Volvo weighing more then twice the Zastava counted! We hardly noticed the impact and neither of us was wearing seat belts. No injuries at both sides.Still feel very guilty for having caused this accident. Luckily, my insurance paid for everything.Whenever driving one of my Doggies around, I’m always aware of the risks and take extra precautions in my driving style.I do have the seat belts with gold forward look logo on them, but still haven’t installed them…Jim, The Netherlands. 1957 Dodge Lancer D500 x2------------------------------------------------------------------------*Van:* Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *Namens *Mark H*Verzonden:* woensdag 21 oktober 2009 16:36 *Aan:* L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Onderwerp:* Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009/*/Holy meltdowns, Batman!/*//*/I can't believe that a subject comes up to this list as APOLITICAL as a crash test video involving destroying an old car and prophesizing about how a real person would fare in such an accident, which just happens to be a subject that I've lived through personally. /*//*/When I watched that video, all I could think about was remembering our crash: how I had about 2/10s of a second to react to this oncoming truck, attempting to ditch my Impala into the ditch on my right; my head being whiplashed backward, while my Uncle Dave whiplashed forward until we met and I broke his nose./*//*/Of my car coming to rest and my first instinct being to turn the key off because the dash dummy lights had come on and I didn't want the car to catch fire; turning to my passengers (family) and seeing my uncle's face covered with blood, but him pointing to me - him believing I was more hurt than him - when he couldn't even breathe and all I could see of his face were his teeth through the blood - a mixture of mine and his./*//*/Of the other driver approaching our wrecked car and screaming at us to get out, oh and by the way I'm diabetic do you have any soda pop? Of paramedics coming and me not knowing if my uncle would live or die, and sitting on the roadside having EMTs picking glass out of my brother and my's tongue and the other driver sidling over blowing cigarette smoke into our faces and saying the wreck was MY fault, and my brother and I simultaneously leaping at the f****** a**hole to show him whose fault the wreck was, but we were so weak the paramedics easily pulled us apart . . . . of my uncle ultimately lingering a few months with ruptured spleen, broken ribs, and oh yeah, a grand return of the giant cancer, and then dying./*//*/I think of all of these things, and how I wondered for years what I could've done differently to potentially avoid this accident, when the conclusion was I did nothing wrong. . . . /*//*/I think of all these things, AND ALL YOU JERKS CAN DO IS YELL AT EACH OTHER ABOUT OBAMA?!!??!? WHAT A BUNCH OF FRIGGIN A**HOLES ANYBODY WHO POSTED POLITICAL BULLCRAP HERE IS!!!!/*//*/Oh, and by the way, here is a photo of the Ford Thunderbird that the 91-year-old lady was driving the other day in Oakridge, OR when she was killed . . . I wonder what SHE thought about President Obama - it's more relevant than what anybody HERE thinks!/*//*/Mark mjh/*/ --- On *Wed, 10/21/09, Bill Amberger /<Magnumguy@xxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote: From: Bill Amberger <Magnumguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009 To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 5:17 AM Also, inform the media about calling our President names, former Pres. Bush was called just about everything you could imagine, and that was the media!!!I agree, whether you like or dislike Pres. Obama, the _office_ still deserves respect, and I have many issues with him but he's still the President.Let's stay off politics.Bill The Magnumguywww.moparstyle.com <http://www.moparstyle.com/> Chapel and Magnum/Doba Forums ----- Original Message ----- *From:* jrawa@xxxxxxx <http://us.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jrawa@xxxxxxx> *To:* L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:09 AM *Subject:* Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009**Keep your hate speech to yourself.**i'm not alone here... and i thought the politcal debate was over here... probably should have been a "reply to sender" [to me] but since my integrity was questioned in public, let this be publici thought AS AMERICANS we had freedom of speech...... i guess the obama supporters dont beleive in that component anymore... whatever... he won because "certain quote-unquote" americans who never voted until one of their "own" ran for office... then they decided to vote.. and the rest blinded by a good speech of empty promisesI LOVE AMERICA... a shame AMERICANS sold out......i guess you missed the broadcast where he admitted to being muslim, which is fine.... YOU took it to believe i said he's a terrorist.... i was referring to the terrorists and the president being both of muslim practice.... [by the way- i support Christianity and Judiasm- those people who believe in the same God this great country was founded under- not some last-minute "christian-anti-white convert churches"] neither candidate would have been great for us..... just one wasnt under observation by the FBI for communications with 2 individuals on the terrorist watch list... do some homework before you vote next time cheif -----Original Message----- From: gardinier@xxxxxxxxxxx To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 6:56 am Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009 If you hate America so much you should just leave! Saying that the President of the United States is a terrorist is unpatriotic. It's an insult to the Americans that elected him and this nation that I for one love deeply. You need to realize that there are over 300 million other people in the USA , it belongs to all of us, not just you. By the way that crash video was copyrighted 2009 which means it was likely made in 2008 during the Bush administration by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, which is even part of the government . Keep your hate speech to yourself.----- Original Message ----- From: jrawa@xxxxxxx <http://us.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jrawa@xxxxxxx> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:18:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009and much, much safer with Obama in the White House! i guess perhaps it is a good thing- no terrorist with bomb the white house while one of their own is in there....58 imperial [forwardlook content] -----Original Message----- From: John Baker <jbaker22@xxxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jbaker22@xxxxxxxxxx>> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Oct 20, 2009 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009 WHAT !!! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Anthony C. Boatman *To:* L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009Although I love my old cars, I feel much safer in a newer car, and much, much safer with Obama in the White House!Tony Boatman------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Lou *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:03 AM *To:* L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* Re: [FWDLK] Crash Test: 1959 vs. 2009That was a Pro-Obama commercial? Anyway: I think that the "big car always wins" rule would only apply when the big car AND small car are from the same generation. That Impala would have creamed a '60 Valiant or a Falcon. But obviously not a new Malibu. Same thing with a Stage Coach and and Model A: Lots more craftsmanship in that stage coach. But the Model A would win :-) Charles Pollock wrote:commercial, Pro- Obama propaganda any time. I feel safer in my old cars than my new, always have…. 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