That doesn't work because there are several degrees of crankshaft travel 
when the piston is at the top of  it's travel with no visible movement of 
the piston, the method David described is very accurate and the method we 
used to find TDC in Radial airplane engines using a degree wheel and an 
indicator in the spark plug hole.
John
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Jones" <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 331 hemi timing questions
 
Hi Chuck;
 The easiest and most positive way to check for TDC is to remove the #1 
spark plug, and insert a straw in the plug hole. Place a socket and 
breaker bar on the crank pulley nut. Slowly turn the engine over in the 
proper direction of rotation, Checking the rotor to make sure its moving 
towards #1, and watch the straw. When it stops moving up and starts moving 
down you just went past TDC. Back up and slowly rotate until the straw 
just stops. Now look for your balancer mark and see where it is. Any mark 
ahead of this location is advanced and any mark behind it is retarded. 
Look real hard as some paint may have filled in the mark.
You will then know if the mark is for TDC, 10°, or if the Balancer outer 
ring has migrated some.
Let us know, Ray in Mena
On Jul 5, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Charles Deyoe Jr. wrote:
 I just installed the new pretronix ignitor on my 55 new yorker with the 
331 hemi.   I adjusted the timing but have a question that I can not find 
the answer too.
 I adjusted the timing as per the service book at 6 Deg BTDC and on the 
harmonic balancer there is a line painted on it from the rebuilder about 
two years ago and a dot on each side I am guessing is 10 deg before and 
after .
 My question is when I shine the timing light to time the car the timing is 
between the line and the lower dot on the balancer{ as close to 6 as I can 
get}  is this location before or after TDC ?  as the car runs and I just 
test drove it 45 miles { went for a ice cream run }  and the only think I 
found is when I I went to start the car it was very slow to even turn over 
at first.  I have found this happens if I do not change the battery every 
three years and the new battery I ordered came in a little small and I 
told them I need the larger size to fit properly.
 Should I readjust the timing to read above the line when I look down with 
the timing light ?  and I also noticed when i was adjusting it today that 
when I gave the car a little gas the timing went past the lower dot and 
returned to about 6 deg when I let off as I know this what should happen
 I have not tried any other test so If any one has advise let me know. 
thanks again.
Chuck Deyoe
1955 new yorker
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