Re: [FWDLK] Need Starter advice 57 Imp 392 hemi

[David Homstad <dhomstad@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff,

When I converted my 56 Dodge Hemi to a 727 TorqueFlite, the original starter
would no longer fit the newer transmission. I bought a high-torque gear
reduction starter from Summit. About $160 4 years ago. I am very happy so
far.

I also converted my 56 Olds to a similar starter. Also very happy.

All starters are not created equal and may have different output power
ratings. These are common standard starters with modified mounting flange
adapters and gears to fit older engines. $269 sounds high to me, but there
are probably not many sources for modified starters.

If using the original wiring, the original solenoid activation is done by a
relay on the inner fender and only one heavy wire goes to the starter. Newer
starters have a large battery terminal and a smaller solenoid terminal.
Connect the 2 terminals on the starter together with a jumper so when the
fender starter relay sends current to the starter's battery terminal, the
solenoid terminal will also be activated to turn the starter on.

Your shop manual should tell you how many teeth your current starter has, in
the specification section.

Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500

-----Original Message-----
From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List
[mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Ingraham
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:40 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [FWDLK] Need Starter advice 57 Imp 392 hemi

Hi all,
  Need some Starter advice...

My 57 Imp has a FRIED chrysler part # 1689342 / MDL-6001 Starter
and
Echlin St-103 solenoid which also seems to be toast.

Does anyone have a stock one to sell?

I had my 59's imps 413 starter rebuilt locally a few years back for around
$320 which I felt was high at the time.

I can certainly have mine rebuilt again and may go that route but I was
Looking on ebay etc. etc. without any luck as I thought if I could just buy
another it may be a good move for the future and may be cheaper if I could
find a nos one.
Anyway after striking out for a stock one, I happened upon this site with
gear reduction starters for early hemi's:

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/5432,383_Early-Hemi-PowerMaster-Gear-Reducti
on-Starters.html

EARLY HEMI POWERMASTER GEAR REDUCTION STARTERS
This eight pound, high-torque gear reduction starter clears all headers and
oil pans where original equipment starters won't. Also has no heat soak
problems. 4.4:1 reduction ratio, 200 ft. lbs. of torque.
Choose 172 or 146 tooth.   $269

So my questions are is anyone using a gear reduction starter on an early
hemi (392)?   If so are you happy with it?  Is this a good unit and a decent
price or does someone else have em better, cheaper, longer warranty, etc.?

Finally if I did order one, do I need a 172 or 146 tooth version with my
stock torqueflite???

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Jeff

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