I don't see how you could
expect this vendor, who handles a multitude of years and makes and models,
to
be an expert on every one and be the
watchdog for the buyers. I am sure they must trust their sellers
to
accurately describe their products.
If something is obviously incorrect, they can spot it. It only
matters
when it is advertised. If you say this is
rebuilt the best I could do on a two thousand dollar budget, then
that is it. If you advertise it as the best
I could do on unlimited budget with all original, or all NOS, parts
then that is another kettle of
fish.
BJ is just pimping the cars for the most
money possible.
As always, the buyer must be knowledgeable,
wealthy, and diligent. If you don't know, you get someone
who does, to assist you. Otherwise, you pay
your bucks and you takes your chances. No bitching later.
Here are not a lot of advertised experts on
Forward Look cars to help the average wealthy guy inspect a
possible purchase.
It depends on what is expressed when the
product is offered for sale.
Of course, we all know the problems that
come up after that sale... the car is resold as an
all-original
untouched wonder-car... which it really
wasn't.
Tom S
southern Ohio
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From: DupontTim@xxxxxxx
This Barrett Jackson car is ranking in the very
top reaches of unethical restoring practices that has plagued rare
cars of the 50's. Built by someone (a total @$$ # */?) who disregards
research and basically pumps the system full of misinformation. Yes, the Barrett
Jackson car is at the pinnacle of deception and if the restorer doesn't know it
he is still guilty of gross ignorance, I don't care how nice the car looks
it is a huge fabrication of monumental forgery. The only grey area here is
wether the restorer is lazy and didn't care to get the facts or
is knowingly exploiting the uneducated public. I have nothing but disgust
for this cars of this ilk and it is easy prey for anyone who turns a critical
eye, Neil Vedder could and has ripped it to shreds in less than a minute, mere
child's play for him. Is Neil the only other person who gets it? collectors must
understand what's at stake here or perhaps apathy is now regarded as a v! ertue.
To me it boils down to the fact that if you are building a car for yourself take
all the liberties you want, and please if you sell it disclose the facts..... if
you are a person or company that wants to restore rare and complicated vehicles
for sale as investments to the public DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!!! A car hobby or
Auction House that awards such total crap are nothing more than parasites
that exploit unsuspecting hosts and there activities have no foundation in
value, I don't know how it isn't considered criminal. I am trying to be
restrained but if you want to know how I really feel.............Tim
in Golden
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OK, ...... I'll go out on a limb here since
no one else likes talking in real terms. Feel free to hit me backchannel
if so inclined.
Earlier it was stated this 56 Golden Lancer had the body
"restored" by Mopar Mel. The work being done for a Bill Harris (?) in
Atlanta, Ga.
It wa also stated by that poster that an impeccable job was
done in the restoration, to which our own Mr. Vedder quickly shredded as being
far from the case.
In my limited exposure to cars handled by Mopar Mel,
all have been screaming examples of cobbed-together cars, using parts from the
most random of sources. A 60 Dodge might have an Imperial motor, or
whatever it took to slap it together and get it up for sale. The interiors
were atrocious. A recent thread over on the other side had a long line of
members raving about this man and his ethics.
I do not know the guy. Never dealt with him. Only
seen a few cars that the owners claimed they bought from him. I see him
posting here regularly looking for impossible parts and wonder how this duality
exists within the "community".
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Tim, I am with you on your points above. Build a
car as you please. Just don't lie about it when it comes time to
sell. That is fraud. As evidenced by recent B-J showings, a well
done clone or Day Two restoration does not suffer for bidders because
it is not a flawless factory numbers matching original or restoration. A
person does not need to be fraudulent to reap the big bucks.
I have really enjoyed the banter regarding these 56 D-500 and
500-1 cars. We have a messy, one owner original D-500 ourselves.
Keep up the study and sharing. Education is the only way to stop
fraud.
B.
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