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Um, we may not want to start a flame war here... by getting
into persons and personalities.
We don't know if the restorer and/or the seller and/or B-J or
all of the above is responsible for the misrepresentation.
I'm with you guys on misrepresentation of major
components. And there are getting to be fewer folks who really know
the difference. History is written by the victor [Adolph Hitler] and some
of what passes for fact is mostly fiction. Or, as real estate people call
it, "puffing."
I hate to agree with Neil [?-not really!] but B-J and others
are 21st century camel traders. "Let the buyer beware," in Latin "caveat
emptor" if you like fancy words, is still the law of the land.
One man's pain is another's pleasure. Myself, I don't
give a flying fig if heater hoses are properly date-coded or clamped on with
stainless straps or bailing wire. I like to drive my cars and don't want
to be stranded in the desert when my 100-point factory hose clamp starts to
leak. Besides, they're a PITA to get on and off. The first thing my
Dad did with his MoPars was to change those clamps at the first flushing.
[Remember, back in the
F-L days spring and fall coolant service was the
norm.]
Thick clearcoat bothers me, but I've got a couple [XXXX]
[censored other brand] cars where you can get all the NORS parts you want out of
a catalog, pretty picky judges, and clearcoat is now accepted with no point
deduction.
That brings up another point, as long as the resale value of
MoPars is relatively lower there will be a number of us who won't be doing a
100-point restoration. Sort of a chicken-and-egg thing whether B-J MoPars
bringing big money raises the value of our number threes.
Well, back to my long weekend honeydew chores. It'a a
pleasant 40*F and dry here in the Pacific NW.
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56
Plymouth, '66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:55
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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] D 500 air
cleaners
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This Barrett Jackson car is ranking in the very
top reaches of unethical restoring practices that has plagued rare
cars of the 50's. Built by someone (a total @$$ # */?) who disregards
research and basically pumps the system full of misinformation. Yes, the
Barrett Jackson car is at the pinnacle of deception and if the restorer
doesn't know it he is still guilty of gross ignorance, I don't care how
nice the car looks it is a huge fabrication of monumental forgery. The
only grey area here is wether the restorer is lazy and didn't care to get the
facts or is knowingly exploiting the uneducated public. I have nothing
but disgust for this cars of this ilk and it is easy prey for anyone who turns
a critical eye, Neil Vedder could and has ripped it to shreds in less than a
minute, mere child's play for him. Is Neil the only other person who gets it?
collectors must understand what's at stake here or perhaps apathy is now
regarded as a v! ertue. To me it boils down to the fact that if you are
building a car for yourself take all the liberties you want, and please if you
sell it disclose the facts..... if you are a person or company that wants to
restore rare and complicated vehicles for sale as investments to the public DO
YOUR HOMEWORK!!!!! A car hobby or Auction House that awards such total
crap are nothing more than parasites that exploit unsuspecting hosts and
there activities have no foundation in value, I don't know how it isn't
considered criminal. I am trying to be restrained but if you want to
know how I really feel.............Tim in Golden
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OK, ...... I'll go out on a limb here
since no one else likes talking in real terms. Feel free to hit me
backchannel if so inclined.
Earlier it was stated this 56 Golden Lancer had the
body "restored" by Mopar Mel. The work being done for a Bill Harris (?)
in Atlanta, Ga.
It wa also stated by that poster that an impeccable job was
done in the restoration, to which our own Mr. Vedder quickly shredded as being
far from the case.
In my limited exposure to cars handled by Mopar
Mel, all have been screaming examples of cobbed-together cars, using parts
from the most random of sources. A 60 Dodge might have an Imperial
motor, or whatever it took to slap it together and get it up for sale.
The interiors were atrocious. A recent thread over on the other side had
a long line of members raving about this man and his ethics.
I do not know the guy. Never dealt with him.
Only seen a few cars that the owners claimed they bought from him. I see
him posting here regularly looking for impossible parts and wonder how this
duality exists within the "community".
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Tim, I am with you on your points above. Build a
car as you please. Just don't lie about it when it comes time to
sell. That is fraud. As evidenced by recent B-J showings, a well
done clone or Day Two restoration does not suffer for bidders
because it is not a flawless factory numbers matching original or
restoration. A person does not need to be fraudulent to reap the big
bucks.
I have really enjoyed the banter regarding these 56 D-500
and 500-1 cars. We have a messy, one owner original D-500
ourselves. Keep up the study and sharing. Education is the only
way to stop fraud.
B.
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