Re: [FWDLK] Oil Pressure on 1955 Poly
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Re: [FWDLK] Oil Pressure on 1955 Poly



David W.,

 

Pennzoil is made from Pennsylvania crude. All Penn crude oils are VERY high in paraffin wax, which is not the best lubricant. This wax is easily converted into sludge. This is why Pennzoil has a very high level of detergents: to keep the sludge suspended until the oil is changed.

 

Many years ago, a peddler at the Minnesota State Fair had a display. He was selling a synthetic oil. His display was 10 different cans of 10W-30 oil sitting on top of a block of dry ice, which melts at –40F. Each can had the top removed and a paint stir stick in the can so you could feel the viscosity of the oil. The synthetic was about the same as a common 10W-30 at room temperature. Several petroleum oils felt about like 90 weight gear oil. Some others were thicker. The Pennzoil was a 3 inch ball like a carmeled apple on a stick when I held it up. It was solid. Not good for a cold engine to run for 5 minutes with no oil flow until the engine heats up enough to melt the oil.

 

Pennzoil is probably adequate in most circumstances. Many people have driven their cars lots of miles without an engine failure, even Arnold Palmer. Their car may go even farther with a different oil. But I wouldn’t use it unless you change it frequently, before the detergent is overloaded, say 2000 miles. Or use it in a cold weather climate where it gets solid. Or in a hot climate where the paraffin breaks down faster.

 

But all of this is just my opinion. Anybody know of a real scientific study of motor oil performance??

 

Dave Homstad

56 Dodge D500

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Oil Pressure on 1955 Poly

 

Why not use pennzoil?I have used it in all my cars for 45 years with no problems. I use only 30 HD in my 58 Fury. I tried 10-30 once but the engine was very noisy.  A quiet engine is a happy engine.

David Wallace 38 year 58 Fury owner

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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:59 AM

Subject: [FWDLK] Oil Pressure on 1955 Poly

 

Tom,

 

One reason it takes time to build up your oil pressure, is your oil is too thick. A straight 30 weight oil will be too thick to flow rapidly through the oil filter to the bearings when starting a cold engine. Try using a 10W-30 weight oil, or maybe a 10W-40 if your engine is high mileage and you drive mostly in warm weather. Do not use Penzoil.

 

All oils get thinner (lower viscosity) when hot. Multiweight oils are much better because they do not thin as fast as a straight weight oil. With a 10W-30 oil, it has the viscosity of a 10 weight when cold for quick oil flow at start up, and of a 30 weight when hot for good shear strength for bearing protection.

 

Ron is correct, your oil is probably draining back into your oil pan. This is common on older engines when the clearances inside the oil pump grow, allowing the oil to leak back into the pan. When the engine is started, the oil filter needs to fill up again before oil will be sent to the bearings.

 

One fix for this oil leak down problem is a modern spin-on oil filter. These have anti-drain back valves in them. This is just a flap of rubber that prevents oil from draining out of the filter back to the pan. With a full filter, oil pressure will come up much faster during start up, which is MUCH better for the bearings. Hot Heads (P/N 21002) sells these adapters:

http://www.hothemiheads.com/dodge/oiling_system/oil_filter_adapter_30d.html 

 

Dave Homstad

56 Dodge D500

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:57 PM
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Oil Pressure on 1955 Poly engine Plymouth

 

    Tom,

     

        When the cars sits overnight the oil drains into the pan. When you start it up and the idle goes high,----- that is the mains rattling because the oil has not gotten to them yet.  It is better when you change oil because the new oil travels faster then the old dirty oil.

          I recommend that you maybe clean the screen on the pickup in the oil pan just incase it is a little clogged and maybe add a can of STP or my favorite Dura Lube. The Dura Lube will free your engine up and the idle will go up about 100 to 250 RPM just minutes after you pour it in your car. When you shut the car off it will stay on the metal parts.

 

                      Ron Swartley

 

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From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of tom taylor
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:31 PM
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Subject: [FWDLK] Oil Pressure on 1955 Poly

 

When I first start my 1955 Dodge with the 270 Poly V8, the oil pressure takes 5 or so seconds to get the guage moving and up to operating pressure.  It runs around 45 pounds at idle once it builds up or at least that is what the guage shows.  If I pump it and let it crank and idle and build up, no problems.  If it goes up past idle at start, I hear what might be mains rattling.  It seems to improve when I changed the oil.  I run 30W in it.

 

Any ideas what the cause is?

 

Tom Taylor

 

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