Re: [FWDLK] Engine size for 1955 Belvedere

["Bill K." <pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I remember the number on it is in the same place as a Chrysler 331/354, top
of block just ahead of the valley cover, but I don't remember which year it
came back to.


I'm looking at the photo I took back then and it looks like P27-5xxx, which
would make it a '55 block and either a 241 or a 259 according to the book I
have.  This is the motor in the truck with the Dodge heads on it -




My dumb question would be to find out if you could adapt a Borg-Warner T5 (5
speed, 5th OD, used in S10, Camaro, Mustang, some Jeeps) behind the Dodge
241 block family.   For what it's worth, they have adapters to run them
behind flatheads and they'll work behind Chevy 216/235 I6 and V8 if you use
the right bellhousing and shorten the input shaft one inch or use an adapter
plate.

My guess is the fastest way to find out would be to round up a Dodge manual
bell and trans and the right bell and the T5 and compare to see how
different things are.   If you still have that extra inch on the input
shaft, it shouldn't be a big deal to whip up a spacer/adapter.



Bill K.





----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Engine size for 1955 Belvedere


> No, the Dodge 241 is a totally different engine from the A block (277,
301,
> 303, 313, 318, 326).  The bore centres on the A are larger than on the
> Dodge.
>
> The 1955 Plymouth poly V8 (241, 260) was based on the Dodge block, the one
> that came out in 1953 as a hemi.   For 1956, Plymouth offered the poly 270
> (based on the Dodge 241) and the new A block poly 277.   The A block was
the
> be Plymouth's engine, but as things turned out, it became a corporate
block
> along with the wedge B and RB blocks.
>
> As for the engine in the 1955 or 1956 Plymouth, what is the engine number?
> It is stamped on the front of the left cylinder bank, just below the head.
> >From that you can determine just what you have.
>
> The Dodge block can be converted to either poly or hemi, but the
Plymouth/A
> block came only as a poly and there are no hemi heads that will fit.
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill K." <pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Engine size for 1955 Belvedere
>
>
> > I believe the Dodge hemi/poly and Plymouth poly in this series are all
> > basically the same block, from the 241 up through the 318 and Dodge
> > 325/326 -
> >
> >
> > My friend has this oddball mud truck he picked up that has a huge frame,
> > military axles and tires, a '72 Ford cab, a '70's GM bed, and the engine
> is
> > a Hemi. We looked up the block number and it comes back to either '55 or
> '56
> > Plymouth; the heads apparently are Dodge (valve covers are plain).  It
> runs
> > pretty good, too.
> >
> > It does lead to the question of how much the Plymouth blocks could be
> bored
> > out, too, I wouldn't be surprised to find out this was bored but the
only
> > way to know would be to tear it down.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill K.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fury Jim" <JRawa@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Engine size for 1955 Belvedere
> >
> >
> > > yep, the 277 definitely is a 56 all models, and 57 plaza only motor,
> > there
> > > was also the dodge series poly 270, which i have in a 56 savoy, and
> think
> > > some late 55's also had thrown in down in moparland.  the 277 valve
> cover
> > looks
> > > like that of the 301/303/318/326
> > >
>
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