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Larry You can rebuild/refresh your starter with basic mechanical skills and a little elbow grease. The commutator of the armature is where most of the problems occur, it can be just dirty, or have the materiel smeared/burned/welded/ across the slots separating the segments. The brushes can be worn down to the point that they don't make good contact with the armature and the more they are worn the less spring pressure is applied to the brush. If the brushes are not worn too much you can clean them and the rest of the starter with solvent or enamel thinner or anything that will NOT dissolve the dielectric coating of the field coils and armature. Sand the commutator and brushes to remove discoloration so they can make good contact. take a used or new hack saw blade and break it to about six inches in length, tape one end thoroughly to protect your hands and grind the other end to a point by grinding the top of the blade down to the cutting teeth at about a 45 degree angle or more, grind the teeth off and then grind the sides to make it the width of the grove separating the commutator segments. Use this tool to scrape between the segments to remove any metal bridging the gap, the gap is filled with mica which was used to insulate the segments so once any foreign bridging material is removed you are done with the commutator after you sand it again to remove any sharp edges caused by the hack saw blade. When you put it back together be sure the brushes make full contact with the commutator, you can loosen and hold them in contact while you retighten them. The smoke from the solenoid is caused by the heat created by the current needed to crank your engine, there might be grease/dirt on the solenoid that is being heated and creating the smoke. the bendix on the engine end of your starter is either solenoid operated or engaged by the inertia of the starter motor turning. The bendix can also be bad and would be the cause of the starter just whining without turning the engine. The bendix will turn one direction freely and not the other and is designed that way to allow the engine to start and run without spinning the starter to excessive speeds, sometime the bendix will wear out and will no longer spin the engine and must be replaced, they should be available at Generator shops or good auto parts stores. I'm not sure what your solenoid is like but many of them have a reversible disc in them that makes the contact to carry the load of the starter, it is under the electrical terminal end of the solenoid and usually easy to access and see what the problem is and how to reverse it to get fresh contacts. Good luck John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Gardinier" <gardinier@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:11 AM Subject: [FWDLK] 61 starter I'm trying to get the 61 Newport started after it's 20 year slumber. The plug wires are now correct- thanks to all for the help. The latest issue is the starter. A little bit of smoke is rising from the solinoid, it cranks too slow for a new battery and sometimes it just whirrrrrs. This is a 1961 361, can I use a newer starter or even a Dakota starter on this? We're not too concerned about originality if there is a better, lighter, more available alternative. ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1
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