You know, that was what I used to love about the '60 Pontiac I had. I could turn a corner to the right a little hard and bring whoever was in the seat next to me, sliding right over... It took a while to put enough of a dent in the padding to keep me in place, though. When I tore up a late 70's car, the belts went into the floor and were just bolted into a threaded reciever maybe an inch deep, that was centered in a rectangular metal piece maybe 3/16ths thick and welded to the floorpan. I would think a good big washer is just about as good, as long as the floor where it's mounted can't pull up. The '59 Olds I had had add-on belts and the driver's side would pull the rear floorpan up about 3" - they should have been mounted to the side of the pan instead of the bottom. If you add shoulder belts in a Forward Look, as long as something threaded is welded to the roof post, I'd think you'd be fine. I'd worry more in some of these cars about the rear frame giving out and roasting you when the gas tank splits. But the Chrysler and DeSoto share a stronger frame similar to the Imperial, and the body-on-frame Imperial is like the ultimate demolition derby car - to the point I've seen guys weld tops onto convertibles to run them. So it's just a matter of tying yourself down so you or any part of you doesn't fly into the dash or out of the car. Where to put belts in a hardtop is another story, but early 70's GM seperate belts might work as someone already suggested. Not sure what Mopar belts look like, I'd have to go look one over - Bill K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Stroup" <tstroup@xxxxxxxx> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] seat belt question > I wear lap belts in all my older cars because I want to stay in the driver's seat so I can continue to try to control the car. I spun part way around in a 1958 Pontiac in the snow, without seat belt, a long time ago and could not stay where I belonged. You can't steer if you are in the passenger seat holding the wheel at three o'clock! > > Sure, a lap belt might cut me in half. Or, I could get hit my a meteorite. I'll use the lap belts in the older vehicles, even if I have to install them, and take that chance. > > Tom southern Ohio > > >>> "Mark J. Hash" <mjh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 02/17/05 02:49 AM >>> > In Oregon, if the vehicle was not manufactured with seat belts they are not mandatory. I personally think those 60s 70s cars that came solely with lap belts are more dangerous than no belt at all (I've seen plenty of accident reports where I work). <snip> > > ************************************************************* > > To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to > http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.857 / Virus Database: 584 - Release Date: 2/12/2005 ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1
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