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Bill,
I have no idea if that particular
car is on the list of survivors. You'd have to ask Jack Lewis of Utah, who
formed the organization and keeps track of the survivors. I know that I,
and just about all other '57 Fury owners and admirers, tell Jack about all '57
Furys that we find to add to the list.
Needless to say, the list doesn't
grow very fast. Sure, a previously unknown car turns up from time to
time. But using your theory, in addition to the about 40 known '57 Furys,
there must be THOUSANDS of others that haven't yet been found.
There's enough car collecters
searching for rare, restorable cars out there that, although I'm sure there are
a few left still unfound, I would wager there are not 2935 '57 Furys left
unfound. That number + the 40 known examples would be a 40% survival rate
for the '57 Fury. I hold the same theory to be true for '59 NYer
convertibles. Just my opinion. . .
Mark
mjh
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 1959 New Yorker
convertibles - How Many Left?
Do they show a '57 Fury
in Georgetown NY in a junkyard?
If the answer is no, then you know
I'm right. These places can only know
about cars if people who care
about that particular car know about them. I
know for a fact no one
from that group has been in some of the collections
and junkyards I have
been in.
Bill K.
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Mark J. Hash" <mjh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
<L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent:
Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 1959 New Yorker
convertibles - How Many Left?
Of course, I know nothing about the
survival rate of '59 New Yorker
converts, but I have to disagree with the
estimate of 40% survival rate. I
own a '57 Fury, which among Mopar
lovers like us has long been recognized as
a collectible car, if not among
some of the general public. According to
the Golden Fin Society,
which tracks numbers of remaining Furys by VIN,
engine #, and body tag #,
of the 7438 Furys made in '57, there are maybe 40
left today. That
includes rusted out frames in junk yards that they could
confirm are real
Furys, all the way to #1 show cars. That's 5.3%
survival
rate.
With as rare a car as the '59 New Yorker convert is,
I'd give it 10-15%, but
couldn't be anywhere near 40%. 10.4% would
still be 30 survivors. Doesn't
seem to me there would be more than 30
of these left.
Mark mjh
'57 Fury in
Ore
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill
K.
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 1959 New
Yorker convertibles - How Many Left?
I'd suspect the
survival rate more like 40% or better on these. 286 cars
is
a little over 5 examples for each of the 50 US states. Those cars
in
salvage yards, barns, garages, or abandoned in the woods/fields,
will not
come up in searches of registered or restored cars, but I
am sure they're
still out there somewhere. My estimate is that
there are some 50,000
pre-1970 automobiles in old salvage yards and
collections scattered about
New York State, and I have already come
across a number of lower
production
cars, including some MoPar
products. So if you allow a loss of 40-60% for
accidents,
fires, and scrapping what were 'just old cars' at the time,
that
still leaves you with a decent number around. The problem is you have
not
only the US, but the entire world for them to be scattered
around. But I
keep finding them even with my relatively limted
area of searching.
Bill K.
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Original Message -----
From: "Robert Garrow" <Robert.Garrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: [FWDLK] 1959 New Yorker
convertibles - How Many Left?
> Dear List,
>
Does anyone know of any 1959 Chrysler NewYorker convertibles, or
even
> Windsor convertibles, in use, in collections or museums or
even in
wrecking
> yards? My brother and I are the very
proud owners of a 1959 Chrysler New
> Yorker convertible in
Persian Pink. The car is in near original No. 2
> condition. It
originated in Pennsylvania, via Sweden, and is now in
> England,
where we live. As there were only 286 examples made in 1959 and
>
with an average survival rate of 1 - 2% at the very most, we are
looking
at
> probably less than 5 cars in existence. I
know the survival rate of 300E
> convertibles is higher, even
though 140 examples were made.
> Any information, no matter how
old, would be much appreciated.
>
> Gavin and Robbie
Garrow
> 1959 New Yorker Convertible
> 1956 Imperial
Southampton 4dr Hardtop
>
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