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There are 14 messages totalling 636 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. New Subscriber Introduction (4)
2. drum puller info? (7)
3. 56 Belvedere Convertible project for sale
4. (PLYMMIE) Prowlin & Growlin & SNIFFIN the AIR!!!!!
5. Lookin for '57 Plymouth Belvedere Stainless
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:20:35 -0500
From: Kendra Mathers <kendra25@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: New Subscriber Introduction
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Hello,
My name is Keith Mathers. I am located in Kanata, Ontario, Canada which =
is now part of Ottawa, Canada's capital and home of the NHL's Ottawa =
Senators hockey team. I have a 1956 Dodge Regent, 2 dr hardtop coupe. =
The color of the car is white with red sport tone trim. I have had it =
now for just over three years. It came from western Canada. I spent =
three years searching for this particular model and was ready to give up =
looking (deciding to go muscle), when it showed up in the Canadian =
version of the Old Car Trader. I jumped on the chance right away, =
although it took some time to close the deal. I'm a big fan of Chrysler =
1955 and 1956 products, more so the Dodges and Plymouths. The car is =
about 90% restored and looking real good. I'm currently focusing on the =
detailing. I enjoy the car hobby very much and spend much of my pastime =
working on the car (it's a passion). This is my first time subscribing =
to a mailing list so it is all new to me, but I'm Forward Looking to it.
...Keith
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:03:08 -0500
From: doodyhafay <doodyhafay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New Subscriber Introduction
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Keith,
Welcome to the email group. I have been a member/reader for 6 years plus
and the information about the Forward Look cars provided by the members is
just endless. These folks are great, they share info and their help is
fantastic. Everyone is interested in getting Forward Look cars back on the
road.
Harry in NC
58 Plymouth
58 Dodge
57 Plymouth
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[mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kendra Mathers
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:21 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [FWDLK] New Subscriber Introduction
Hello,
My name is Keith Mathers. I am located in Kanata, Ontario, Canada which
is now part of Ottawa, Canada's capital and home of the NHL's Ottawa
Senators hockey team. I have a 1956 Dodge Regent, 2 dr hardtop coupe. The
color of the car is white with red sport tone trim. I have had it now for
just over three years. It came from western Canada. I spent three years
searching for this particular model and was ready to give up looking
(deciding to go muscle), when it showed up in the Canadian version of the
Old Car Trader. I jumped on the chance right away, although it took some
time to close the deal. I'm a big fan of Chrysler 1955 and 1956 products,
more so the Dodges and Plymouths. The car is about 90% restored and looking
real good. I'm currently focusing on the detailing. I enjoy the car hobby
very much and spend much of my pastime working on the car (it's a passion).
This is my first time subscribing to a mailing list so it is all new to me,
but I'm Forward Looking to it.
...Keith
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size=3D2>Welcome to the email group. I have been a member/reader =
for 6=20
years plus and the information about the Forward Look cars provided by =
the=20
members is just endless. These folks are great, they share =
info and=20
their help is fantastic. Everyone is interested in getting Forward =
Look=20
cars back on the road.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Plymouth</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Dodge</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Kendra=20
Mathers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:21 =
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am located in Kanata, Ontario, Canada which is now part of Ottawa, =
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1956 Dodge=20
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western=20
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was ready=20
to give up looking (deciding to go muscle), when it showed up in the =
Canadian=20
version of the Old Car Trader. I jumped on the chance right away, =
although it=20
took some time to close the deal. I'm a big fan of Chrysler 1955 =
and 1956=20
products, more so the Dodges and Plymouths. The car is about =
90%=20
restored and looking real good. I'm currently focusing on the =
detailing. I=20
enjoy the car hobby very much and spend much of my pastime working on =
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:57:30 -0800
From: Marty Stewart <moopar2ya2@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New Subscriber Introduction
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Welcome, we are lucky to have Bill Watson on this list. He knows more about
the Canadian cars than anyone, I think. I have a 56 Crusader, if you need
any information, I have a complete parts book and service manual for the
Canadian Mopars for 56. My car is on this web site .
http://members.shaw.ca/puh/index.htm We are in Calgary.
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about the Canadian cars than anyone, I think. I have a 56 Crusader,
if you need any information, I have a complete parts book and service
manual for the Canadian Mopars for 56. My car is on this web site .
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href="http://members.shaw.ca/puh/index.htm";>http://members.shaw.ca/puh/index.htm</A>
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:23:25 -0500
From: Tom Stroup <tstroup@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New Subscriber Introduction
Welcome.
I have a 1955 Coronet.
It gets into the blood. ;-)
Tom southern Ohio
>>> Kendra Mathers <kendra25@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 12/23/03 01:45 AM >>>
Hello,
My name is Keith Mathers. I am located in Kanata, Ontario, Canada which
is now part of Ottawa, Canada's capital and home of the NHL's Ottawa
Senators hockey team. I have a 1956 Dodge Regent, 2 dr hardtop coupe.
The color of the car is white with red sport tone trim. I have had it
now for just over three years. It came from western Canada. I spent
three years searching for this particular model and was ready to give up
looking (deciding to go muscle), when it showed up in the Canadian
version of the Old Car Trader. I jumped on the chance right away,
although it took some time to close the deal. I'm a big fan of Chrysler
1955 and 1956 products, more so the Dodges and Plymouths. The car is
about 90% restored and looking real good. I'm currently focusing on the
detailing. I enjoy the car hobby very much and spend much of my pastime
working on the car (it's a passion). This is my first time subscribing
to a mailing list so it is all new to me, but I'm Forward Looking to it.
...Keith
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:16:19 -0500
From: Bryan Scott <scott1990@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: drum puller info?
Hi all!
I have a 58 DeSoto and I need to get a drum puller to access the rear
brakes. I understand the puller for Mopars is different than the GM puller
(surprise, surprise). My question is: Does anyone have a part number,
manufacturer, or source so I can find the right tool the first time (I hate
trial and error)? Do you know the approximate cost?
Happy holidays to all!
Bryan Scott
Charlton, MA
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:34:32 -0800
From: Marty Stewart <moopar2ya2@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: drum puller info?
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Here is a link to one that is similiar. This will pull them but its still a
job, search for old threads as there has been some excellent advice. Might
be easier to find calling it a hub puller rather than a drum puller. You
want this style that uses as a hammer to turn the shaft, anything else is
not likely to be strong enough. These are about $135, special order,
renting may be preferable. http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdspec21.html
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<DIV>Here is a link to one that is similiar. This will pull them but its
still a job, search for old threads as there has been some excellent
advice. Might be easier to find calling it a hub puller rather than a drum
puller. You want this style that uses as a hammer to turn the shaft,
anything else is not likely to be strong enough. These are about
$135, special order, renting may be preferable. <A
href="http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdspec21.html";>http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdspec21.html</A></DIV><p><hr
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:25:13 -0500
From: "Dr. Ed Vitz" <vitz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: drum puller info?
Hi all--
I've just been lurking 'till now but this is a question I can help with
(most of you know much more than I).
I met Les Fairbanks at a DeSoto Club meeting, and he sells a custom
made drum puller. 616.463.5260, lessue@xxxxxxxxxxx, 4965 Park Dr.,
Watervliet, MI 49098. I didn't buy one (they were about $100?), because I
still use the big hammer and acetylene torch method. Some of the hubs on
late 50's cars are rusted on too well for even a real big hammer, and the
drum puller is a good idea. If you just want to work on brakes, you can
usually remove the drum from the hub with a hammer, pounding on one side
while pulling one the other. Too little a whack, and you get nowhere; too
big a whack and you can crack the drum. Let me know how you make out.
I live in Kutztown, PA, and have a '59 Firesweep 4 dr, '52 Plymouth
convertible, '68 Fury convertible, and '57 retractable, all drivers in
varying stages of restoration. Dave, your intrepid listmanager, put the
"Dr." in front of my name--I'm not a "real" doctor, just the chemist kind.
Quit a good job at my dad's garage and went to grad school, but still
remember which end of the hammer to pick up.
Ed Vitz
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Scott <scott1990@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:16 pm
Subject: [FWDLK] drum puller info?
> Hi all!
>
> I have a 58 DeSoto and I need to get a drum puller to access the rear
> brakes. I understand the puller for Mopars is different than the
> GM puller
> (surprise, surprise). My question is: Does anyone have a part
> number,manufacturer, or source so I can find the right tool the
> first time (I hate
> trial and error)? Do you know the approximate cost?
>
> Happy holidays to all!
>
> Bryan Scott
> Charlton, MA
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:40:22 +0000
From: bill parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: drum puller info?
Here is the tool you need, there almost always is one on eBay under Snap On
puller or OTC Puller, but not right now, so this is a webpage for a
toolstore that shows it with a pic:
http://www.mytoolstore.com/otc/7394.html
Bill & Kathi Parker, South Central Indiana
'62 Plymouth Max Wedge; '64 Dart convertible (Kathi's car); '65 Barracuda
\6
(Kathi's other car); '65 Imperial; '68 Barracuda FB 340-S; '69 Barracuda FB
now 360 (David's car); '72 Cuda '340
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:40:02 -0600
From: Terry & Andree Hoeman <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: drum puller info?
That is the one. My wife bought me one through the local parts house for
Christmas some years ago. Might try local to eliminate the massive
shipping
cost which will be associated. They weigh a ton!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "bill parker" <hemirr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] drum puller info?
> Here is the tool you need, there almost always is one on eBay under Snap
On
> puller or OTC Puller, but not right now, so this is a webpage for a
> toolstore that shows it with a pic:
>
> http://www.mytoolstore.com/otc/7394.html
>
>
>
> Bill & Kathi Parker, South Central Indiana
> '62 Plymouth Max Wedge; '64 Dart convertible (Kathi's car); '65
Barracuda
\6
> (Kathi's other car); '65 Imperial; '68 Barracuda FB 340-S; '69 Barracuda
FB
> now 360 (David's car); '72 Cuda '340
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:56:55 -0500
From: "Edward X. Petrus" <desoto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: drum puller info?
Or you can buy one from Les Fairbanks, lessue@xxxxxxxxxxx
His work great, are $100, shipping included, I believe. Also, Jc Whitney
sells them, but get the HEAVY DUTY ONE ONLY.
Ed
At 12:16 PM 12/23/2003 -0500, Bryan Scott wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>I have a 58 DeSoto and I need to get a drum puller to access the rear
>brakes. I understand the puller for Mopars is different than the GM
puller
>(surprise, surprise). My question is: Does anyone have a part number,
>manufacturer, or source so I can find the right tool the first time (I
hate
>trial and error)? Do you know the approximate cost?
>
>Happy holidays to all!
>
>Bryan Scott
>Charlton, MA
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:59:27 -0600
From: Clay Wood <mydesoto@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: drum puller info?
If there is an AutoZone near by, you can rent a FRONT AXLE puller from them
for the paltry sum of $25.00. The kick is, you can rent this puller
indefinitely. You break it, take it back and exchange it for another. You
want a new one, take it back. It's about the silliest rental program I have
ever seen, but hey, works for me!
And, if you don't have an AutoZone in your area, let me know and I will
lend
you mine. Just be sure and return it as things with my Belvy have finally
started moving and I am going to need it again here in a couple months.
Hope to have helped some,
Clay Wood
http://www.mocarz.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward X. Petrus" <desoto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] drum puller info?
> Or you can buy one from Les Fairbanks, lessue@xxxxxxxxxxx
> His work great, are $100, shipping included, I believe. Also, Jc
Whitney
> sells them, but get the HEAVY DUTY ONE ONLY.
>
> Ed
>
> At 12:16 PM 12/23/2003 -0500, Bryan Scott wrote:
> >Hi all!
> >
> >I have a 58 DeSoto and I need to get a drum puller to access the rear
> >brakes. I understand the puller for Mopars is different than the GM
puller
> >(surprise, surprise). My question is: Does anyone have a part number,
> >manufacturer, or source so I can find the right tool the first time (I
hate
> >trial and error)? Do you know the approximate cost?
> >
> >Happy holidays to all!
> >
> >Bryan Scott
> >Charlton, MA
> >
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:48:32 -0700
From: J Forbes <jforb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 56 Belvedere Convertible project for sale
After spending five years not doing anything with our 56 Plymouth
convertible, I think it's time to let it go. The car is rough, it sat
in the desert for a couple decades. I have a couple pictures up on my
web page:
http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2/56plym/index.html
I don't have a firm price in mind yet, I realize that it's not easy to
figure out a reasonable value for a car like this, which is desireable,
but needing a lot of work. I'd like to offer it to the folks on the
list first, though.
The car is in Sierra Vista, AZ, which is about 75 miles southeast of
Tucson.
I have a solid but incomplete 4 door parts car also, which should help
with the restoration, if you live close enough to make it worth hauling.
The convertible has a clear AZ title in my name.
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:56:32 -0800
From: eastern sierra Adj Services <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: (PLYMMIE) Prowlin & Growlin & SNIFFIN the AIR!!!!!
Doc Ed; yer the nuclear chemist , I was looking-for, last week!!
Seriously, sorta, on 6/15/07, when we get to see Virgil, after he's
unearthed, in Tulsa, is there any practical way to "gather/sample" his
NOS Factory-new-car-smell, & provide it to any
"lab" so that they might mass-spectrometerize
it, or whatever, so that that DeLovely(?) odor might be reproduced, as
either an "air Freshener", or for the harder-corer of us, a cologne?
Eaux de EXNER,
Neil Vedder
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:05:56 EST
From: A57FURY@xxxxxxx
Subject: Lookin for '57 Plymouth Belvedere Stainless
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OK people, someone out there in Forward Look land has to have an extra
passenger side lower rear quarter lower piece of stainless. I can't
believe that I
don't have the piece in the garage. It's not there. I'm about to start
the
paint on my Belvedere convertible and I can't find that piece of stainless.
Please do me a favor when you get a chance go out into the garage and take
a
look. I know there is an extra piece out there somewhere. BEG, BEG,
BEG.....GROVEL, GROVEL, GROVEL....
John Paxos
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about to start the paint on my Belvedere convertible and I can't find that
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iece of stainless. Please do me a favor when you get a chance go out
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nto the garage and take a look. I know there is an extra piece out
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re somewhere. BEG, BEG, BEG.....GROVEL, GROVEL, GROVEL....<BR>
John Paxos</FONT></HTML>
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